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antiserious
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reply to gracie7

Re: Coursey's take on the purchase


... thanks for the link, Gracie ...

... this discussion has speculated on schemes-within-schemes and MS's unknown motives in this matter, but what it comes down to for me is this: WHATEVER MS's plans are, buying Claria will reward scumbags for acquiring data in the worst possible way - by spyware ... much of their data was simply stolen by programs installed without the pc owner's knowledge, without full (or often ANY) disclosure ... if you value that data above and beyond the means used to acquire it, you're reinforcing this behavior ... how is this different from buying the stolen credit data that was just reported? ... would MS feel good about doing that? ...

... frankly I can't believe MS would be this stupid, and I see a TON of trouble in their future if they do - all of it deserved ...

... f w i w ...

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gracie7
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said by antiserious:

"... this discussion has speculated on schemes-within-schemes and MS's unknown motives in this matter,"
see »mccd.udc.es/orihuela/epic/ols-master.html for one take on that...

and i agree with your sentiments completely...ms is so used to everyone yelling about something and then rolling over and allowing it...
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said by "antiserious":
... this discussion has speculated on schemes-within-schemes and MS's unknown motives in this matter, but what it comes down to for me is this: WHATEVER MS's plans are, buying Claria will reward scumbags for acquiring data in the worst possible way - by spyware ... much of their data was simply stolen by programs installed without the pc owner's knowledge, without full (or often ANY) disclosure
Microsoft, as well as many other well-known companies, has been doing exactly that, already, for years now. Why should this surprise anyone?

Has anyone considered that the angle that MS may want to pursue, with this potential merger / acquisition, is NOT the software side, but the other side - the real-world marketing data and information that has been collected by Claria/Gator, etc. MS has already been collecting various forms and snippets of data, sometimes unknowingly, from the users of their software. If they could somehow tie that in to "meatspace" identities and information - it would make their already-collected storehouses of information just that much more valuable.

Not to mention, this would seem to be Google's eventual goal as well. Not only collecting and cross-references computer information, for use in their search engine, etc., but collecting and cross-referencing *personal* information, for use in marketing and generally profiting off of it, along with other far more sinister and nefarious potentially-political uses. (Is it any wonder that Google hired someone recently that was well-known in the political space? Hmm.)

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