Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to Doctor Dan
Re: Deserved arrest
But if he's simply accessing the hotspot, he's not accessing the computer.... |
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| said by Karl Bode  :But if he's simply accessing the hotspot, he's not accessing the computer.... All depends on how the definition of "computer" is worded in the law. An AP could be a "computer". It has memory, a processor, a UI, etc.
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| But it contains no hard drive so therefore it contains no pertinent, private or valuable data. Nice try with the spin, however. Furthermore, that law says "any computer connected to the Internet" -- what about computers that are simply on a closed LAN that happens to have a wireless connection? No Internet connection there so that law wouldn't even apply in that case. |
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Neil
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join:2003-08-20
New York, NY
| said by LinuxJunkie :Furthermore, that law says "any computer connected to the Internet" -- what about computers that are simply on a closed LAN that happens to have a wireless connection? No Internet connection there so that law wouldn't even apply in that case. According to the Wikipedia definition (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internets),
Internets may refer to: .. # Wide area networks using a private IP address space, called "private internets" in RFC 1918 Granted, a private network wouldn't be "THE" Internet, but apparently it is still AN internet.
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iamsomeone
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and what of the AP when it's set to "Broadcast" the SSID? that would make the AP "accessing" the laptop or whatnot that would end up connecting to it........... |
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Sodium
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join:2003-12-02
Rice Lake, WI
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said by LinuxJunkie :But it contains no hard drive so therefore it contains no pertinent, private or valuable data. Nice try with the spin, however. Furthermore, that law says "any computer connected to the Internet" -- what about computers that are simply on a closed LAN that happens to have a wireless connection? No Internet connection there so that law wouldn't even apply in that case. My LinkSys WRT54GS has the CPU, Memory, etc. mentioned as well as 8M of Flash memory and a version of Linux compiled for the custom Broadcom CPU.
I have logging enabled on my router, which *could* contain private/valuable information stored in the Flash memory - i.e. private MAC addresses, who's been on my network, etc. I would consider the Flash memory a form of hard drive in that the memory is non-volatile.
I have to agree with you about the closed LAN thing though, in general. The problem is the only way to really know if it's a closed LAN or if it's connected to the internet is if you connect to the AP itself.
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boog
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join:2000-07-24
Trenton, OH
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said by LinuxJunkie :But it contains no hard drive so therefore it contains no pertinent, private or valuable data. If you were to connect to my AP it would have to ask my linux box for an ip address, it has a hard drive. The linux box is also the dns server, which is handed out in the dhcp request. I would say that would be "connecting" to my computer.
Even with that said, I still have to feel that if they didn't try to lock it down in any way, they must not care that anyone connects to it. I believe that AP's and wireless routers come with directions, and it says in there that if you don't encrypt or at least mac filter, that anyone can connect and possibly steal your info.
I for one do care and I lock mine down.
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