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mers2
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reply to Chris 313
Re: MS Downgrades Claria Detections

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Hearing this news makes me glad I can't use MSAS and instead am using Counter Spy. Even though MSAS is free, I still like the better detection CS gives me, even if I got to pay yearly for it.
Counterspy is everything MSAS should have been.
I only HOPE that CS doesn't weaken because of a Spyware company offering money, or a spyware company buyout like MS is probably doing.
Considering the people who run Sunbelt software and those who consult for them (including our own Eric Howes) I'd say that possibility is slim to none.
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ctrip
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said by mers2 See Profile:

said by Chris 313 See Profile:

said by mers2 See Profile:

said by Chris 313 See Profile:

Hearing this news makes me glad I can't use MSAS and instead am using Counter Spy. Even though MSAS is free, I still like the better detection CS gives me, even if I got to pay yearly for it.
Counterspy is everything MSAS should have been.
I only HOPE that CS doesn't weaken because of a Spyware company offering money, or a spyware company buyout like MS is probably doing.
Considering the people who run Sunbelt software and those who consult for them (including our own Eric Howes) I'd say that possibility is slim to none.
Looks like that "slim to none" possibility has just come to pass.

»Sunbelt Adjusts WhenU Detections
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mers2
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said by ctrip See Profile:

Looks like that "slim to none" possibility has just come to pass.

»Sunbelt Adjusts WhenU Detections
Considering the trust users have in Sunbelt, the promises of it's President and those who consult for them, I will admit I am extremely disappointed in this. Sunbelt was pretty much the last hold out. But at least they released a public announcement and a white paper giving their reasons at the same time. More then the others have done thus far.
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B
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Oh this is not going to be pretty.

It looks like St. Kolla is the last man standing.

We really need a community antispyware effort that is NOT accountable, so that WhenU and Claria and the rest of the vermin can be permanently marked "evil" without worry. None of these for-profit concerns have the balls, and I can't say I blame them.

Either that, or the "I know it when I see it" Bayesian antispyware ruleset I keep daydreaming about.

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mers2
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said by B See Profile:

Either that, or the "I know it when I see it" Bayesian antispyware ruleset I keep daydreaming about.

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reply to B
Just remember that Spybot S & D does include a couple of detections that are turned "off" by default. CDilla, New.net and Sidestep maybe. At least it allows you to select detection or not. MSAS has little options for the detection phase. How does Sunbelts software work at the detection level? Can you select and option like delete or quarentine?
Ultimately it would be nice to allow the user full control over detection levels.
Oh and of course "Full Disclosure" of what it detects or doesn't detect anymore.


mers2
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said by jbob See Profile:

Just remember that Spybot S & D does include a couple of detections that are turned "off" by default. CDilla, New.net and Sidestep maybe. At least it allows you to select detection or not. MSAS has little options for the detection phase. How does Sunbelts software work at the detection level? Can you select and option like delete or quarentine?
Ultimately it would be nice to allow the user full control over detection levels.
Oh and of course "Full Disclosure" of what it detects or doesn't detect anymore.
Counterspy at present gives you the choice only after the detection is made. Similar to MSAS.
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