adam9280
join:2005-01-02
Pontiac, MI
1 edit | [Equipment] Whole House VoIP Setup Pictures
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I noticed many people are asking how to do a whole house setup. Well, instead of paying someone to do it... do it yourself. Sorry if this has already been done. I just haven't seen it anywhere.
Steps
1. Go outside to phone box and open it. (See picture 1).
2. Unplug phone plug. See picture 2. (I live in a condo so there are multiple jacks).
3. Put a sign or tape on the plug stating (Do not plug in... damage will occur). Something to that effect. You don't want some "good samaritan" messing up your VoIP equipement.
4. Go inside and plug the phone plug from the VoIP router or box into any phone jack.
5. You're done. |
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chaud
Serious Business
join:2004-07-09
Anderson, SC | If someone didn't already know this, and they paid someone...
I'll do it for half the qoute you get.  |
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rmo9
join:2004-07-01
Arlington, TX | reply to adam9280
It should be noted that if you have two phone lines wired to each jack, you need to use a phone cable with only two wires connected, so you don't blow up your adapter. |
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adam9280
join:2005-01-02
Pontiac, MI
| reply to chaud
said by chaud  :If someone didn't already know this, and they paid someone... I'll do it for half the qoute you get. Hey bonehead... I just showed them how to do it. Why would they need you?!? Seriously... Don't forget about the "Upon reflection, I do not wish to post" option.
Now that I just taught you how to do something... I'll do it for half of what the other guy is charging. (Sounds like a genius idea to me). |
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horsecharles
join:2005-06-27
Jackson Heights, NY
| reply to rmo9
said by rmo9 :It should be noted that if you have two phone lines wired to each jack, you need to use a phone cable with only two wires connected, so you don't blow up your adapter. ¿ please elaborate ? sorry for being so dense... |
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rmo9
join:2004-07-01
Arlington, TX
| reply to adam9280
Check out the picture. If your house is wired like the lefthand picture, you need to hook up the VOIP adapter with a cable who's end looks like the righthand picture. This is only if your house is wired with two phone lines. |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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| reply to adam9280
said by adam9280 :said by chaud :If someone didn't already know this, and they paid someone... I'll do it for half the qoute you get. Hey bonehead... I just showed them how to do it. Why would they need you?!? Seriously... Don't forget about the "Upon reflection, I do not wish to post" option. Now that I just taught you how to do something... I'll do it for half of what the other guy is charging. (Sounds like a genius idea to me). I think you missed the point, I believe it was a joke. 
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horsecharles
join:2005-06-27
Jackson Heights, NY | reply to rmo9
thank you, RMO. i didn't get it(at first) because all the (numerous)times i've had multiple lines at work or home it's been always with a separate nid/box for each... thanks again. |
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themack
Deo Volente
join:2002-07-06
Forest Hill, MD
| reply to BillRoland
It is a great picture and I'm sure many people are grateful for the photo..
Many people don't know the first thing about how the telephone wires get into the house, etc... yet they want to use VOIP( and that's a good thing, for all of us.)
I know I love to see a picture when I'm about to start unplugging wires.
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rjotero
join:2005-05-10
San Antonio, TX
| reply to adam9280
Hi, Guys
I live in single house and my SBC Box is similar the one is shown by adam416. I have two connectors the first connector is the one that is attached the landline phone with 2 pairs of cables. The second connector have no cable attached only the gray cable that is plug in to the connector. I believe this is an additional one in case we request an additional land line.
My question is If can connect my VoIP to the second connector unplugging the gray cable? Also, which pair of cable I need to screw to the connector. SBC left around six cable not connected to the box. Also I would need a double wall jack in the house to connect the line line and VoIP?
Thank you for any of your expertise. |
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schipperke
join:1999-11-29
Potomac, MD |  reply to adam9280
Go here »michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html
This guy gives a good primer, shows various NIDs too. |
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adam9280
join:2005-01-02
Pontiac, MI
1 edit | reply to BillRoland
I'd just like to see one thread that doesn't include someone's sarcastic joke that only takes up space on the page. That's all.
Edit: Just look at RMO... he's contributing in a good way. |
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AlphaOne
I see
Premium
join:2004-02-21
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to adam9280
said by adam9280 :4. Go inside and plug the phone plug from the VoIP router or box into any phone jack. Aren't you suppose to change the polarity?
When I wired our house for VOIP, I did exactly what you did in #4. But when I checked the phone jack all over the house, my tester was giving me red (meaning, the polarity was reversed).
I then reversed the polarity by switching the two wires from the adapter, plugged it to the wall, and voila! Checked the wall jacks and my tester is now green.
I guess this won't matter much, as telephone equipment tolerates a reversed tip/ring. But it will be nice to have it wired "properly".
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helloman12
@comcast.net | my phonebox is locked from outside. How would you open it. |
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devil24
Premium
join:2002-06-28
Houston, TX | reply to AlphaOne
I didn't have to do that. |
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adam9280
join:2005-01-02
Pontiac, MI | reply to helloman12
What kind of lock are we talking about? Pad lock? |
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WhyADuck
Premium
join:2003-03-05
| reply to AlphaOne
said by AlphaOne :said by adam9280 :4. Go inside and plug the phone plug from the VoIP router or box into any phone jack. Aren't you suppose to change the polarity? When I wired our house for VOIP, I did exactly what you did in #4. But when I checked the phone jack all over the house, my tester was giving me red (meaning, the polarity was reversed). I then reversed the polarity by switching the two wires from the adapter, plugged it to the wall, and voila! Checked the wall jacks and my tester is now green. I guess this won't matter much, as telephone equipment tolerates a reversed tip/ring. But it will be nice to have it wired "properly". For 99.9% of people, reversed polarity won't make on bit of difference - modern phone equipment simply is not polarity sensitive. Even in the old days of the PSTN (prior to electronic switching), many phone companies would reverse the line polarity to indicate a "supervised" state (that is, when charging for the call should commence) so they could connect a "postpay" type pay phone to any line, and when the called party answered it would interrupt the outgoing audio path (so they couldn't hear you) until you deposited the money. For many obvious and not-so-obvious reasons, this was far from the ideal way to handle coin phones, so you didn't find these kinds of phones used much in the Bell System, but General Telephone and other independents used them a lot.
Even the Bell System would reverse the polarity under certain conditions, though - for example, if you dialed "0" for the Operator, the polarity would reverse in some exchanges. Point is, all phones going way back to the earliest models pretty much had to be polarity insensitive. There are only two exceptions I'm aware of: Certain types of payphones, and phones with older type touch tone pads (the ones with real transistors and tuning coils on them, not later integrated circuit models). Even the older touch tone pads could be retrofitted to be polarity insensitive, but if they weren't, you could not dial touch tones when the polarity was reversed. The latter caused LOTS of problems in the early days of long distance competition, because people would get on a pay phone or older touch tone phone and attempt to call a long distance company's toll-free access number (using a 950-xxxx number or a 1-800 number), but when the call completed to the alternative company's dial tone, suddenly the touch tone pad in the phone was non-functional, so they couldn't complete their call. For a time Radio Shack and other companies sold battery-operated handheld touch tone dialers (designed to be held up to the phone's mouthpiece) to get around that problem.
But if you are not using an older touch tone phone or a pay phone with your VoIP adapter, it's highly unlikely that you will experience any problem with the reversed polarity. If you really hate seeing the "wrong" color LED on a line tester then by all means feel free to reverse the two line wires, but for most of us it simply isn't worth the effort to "fix" the polarity. |
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gatzdon
join:2002-10-25
Lake Zurich, IL
| reply to adam9280
I didn't see it mentioned above (may have missed it) but it is best to actually disconnect the wires, not just disconnect the RJ-11 jack.
Tip: For those with DSL, I found an extra "Test Port" or whatever they called those RJ-11 jacks in the NID. I used it as a convenient way to put a line filter in for the voice phones in my house (which currently is just a soft fax on my computer). Also, Since I was lucky enough to wire my whole house with Cat5E, I just used a third pair for the VOIP phones and cut it so short in the NID that it couldn't be reasonably connected to a live phone line.
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schnauze
join:2001-05-29
Santa Clara, CA
| Here is a simpler whole house hookup.
These phones will be available this Friday from Packet8. I am on the beta program and the performance is excellent. A 1 port router is included in the base station, and you can add up to 10 additional cordless handsets/chargers anywhere in your house. HINT: buy the additional handsets off of the Uniden web page where they sell new ones for $60/each, but refurbished ones for $40/each. The refurbished are as good as new, in my experience. |
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devil24
Premium
join:2002-06-28
Houston, TX | This Uniden looks pretty cool.
So, the master unit will work as an ATA + phone device, right?
Is it Sip compatible??? |
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