 JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA | Small, unintrusive government Why is this -republican- getting the federal government involved in state and local issues that the fed has no business being in? | |
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 Primis1
join:2005-06-13 Coldwater, MI | Re: Small, unintrusive government Better question: What does party affiliation have to do with anything? | |
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 |   ieolus Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19 Duluth, GA | Re: Small, unintrusive government Because Republicans are SUPPOSEDLY for smaller government. Don't act stupid. -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp | |
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join:2005-06-13 Coldwater, MI
| Re: Small, unintrusive government In case you missed the boat, it's a Republican (McCain) and a Dem (Lautenberg) taking up a side against a Republican (Sessions). Party affiliation is fairly irrelevant in this case it seems and it's other interests that are drawing the lines.
Also, I can't really believe you're at all surprised that McCain would be involved against something like this. Either that or you haven't followed politics at all in the past few years... McCain's still railing against the cableco's over ala carte' at last check. This is right in his wheelhouse.
And as for Sessions' involvement, it's well-documented why he's interested in his side... | |
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 |  |  |   BonezX Basement Dweller Premium join:2004-04-13 Canada | Re: Small, unintrusive government more business affiliation then party affiliation.
that and he should not be able to make anything that SBC is pushing. | |
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 |  |   IT Guy Ow, My Balls Premium join:2004-07-29 Las Cruces, NM clubs: | They promote smaller government when their party isn't the majority makeup of the government. | |
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join:2002-12-06 Nirvana | Re: Small, unintrusive government They also promote for-profit wars -- when their kids don't have to fight. -- When Clinton lied -- no one died. | |
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 |  |  |  |   IT Guy Ow, My Balls Premium join:2004-07-29 Las Cruces, NM clubs: | Re: Small, unintrusive government Didn't you know? War is good for the economy.  | |
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join:2001-08-23 Minneapolis, MN | Re: Small, unintrusive government Ferengi Rule of Acquisition Number #34:
"War is good for business." | |
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@rr.com
from: ronpin 
| "Because Republicans are SUPPOSEDLY for smaller government. Don't act stupid."
I've heard this before, but everything I have seen, the Republicans are the ones that pass more laws giving Goverment all the more control.
Its also just like the Republicans calling the Democrats liberals. When everything I have seen, its the Republicans that are so "liberal" with all the money thrown around. | |
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  Nerdtalker Working Hard, Or Hardly Working? Premium,MVM join:2003-02-18 Tucson, AZ clubs:
| said by JakCrow :Why is this -republican- getting the federal government involved in state and local issues that the fed has no business being in? Why are you advocating against a bill that would stop another government official from passing a law banning every community from wiring itself for broadband?
Seems kind of backwards to argue against the government getting involved after they've already begun to. -- "Some people never see the light till it shines thru bullet holes." -Bruce Cockburn
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 |   JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA 1 edit | Re: Small, unintrusive government This is a state and local level issue. AND it looks like a nice conflict of interest too. Imagine that... | |
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| Re: Small, unintrusive government said by JakCrow :This is a state and local level issue. I understand that. You're saying that it's ironic that a republican (who would usually advocate for state rights) is getting involved with an issue that should only concern that state. You're insinuating that there's some hypocrisy here, right? -- "Some people never see the light till it shines thru bullet holes." -Bruce Cockburn
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join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA
| Re: Small, unintrusive government said by Nerdtalker :said by JakCrow :This is a state and local level issue. I understand that. You're saying that it's ironic that a republican (who would usually advocate for state rights) is getting involved with an issue that should only concern that state. You're insinuating that there's some hypocrisy here, right? You are correct. | |
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join:2001-02-20 Evergreen, CO
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| Obviously it is not just a state / local issue right now.
Any law, whether it is for or against it makes it a national issue. It would be nice to see a law defining it as not a national issue. -- "If PCs are hard, then Macs are flaccid" -bb | |
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| Conflict of interest? Not for McCain. Conflict of interest YES for Sessions, the individual whose already trying to regulate broadband by BANNING local governments altogether from setting up their own broadband networks. Funny that an ex SBC employee whose wife owns more than $500,000 in stocks would do such a thing. McCain and Launtenberg are simply reacting to corrupt legislation, attemping to insure city's rights to set up their own utility infrastructure. | |
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join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA
| Re: Small, unintrusive government said by broadbanderexpanderc:
Conflict of interest? Not for McCain. Conflict of interest YES for Sessions, the individual whose already trying to regulate broadband by BANNING local governments altogether from setting up their own broadband networks. Funny that an ex SBC employee whose wife owns more than $500,000 in stocks would do such a thing. McCain and Launtenberg are simply reacting to corrupt legislation, attemping to insure city's rights to set up their own utility infrastructure. Yes. Conflict of interest on Session's part. I should have made the clearer. | |
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  Glenn I'D Rather Be Skiing Premium join:2000-10-05 Wallingford, CT | Everyone knows McCain is a democrat in disguise. | |
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 |   JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA | Re: Small, unintrusive government Yes. I've heard many "conservatives" say that of him. Though real conservatives don't make such silly claims. | |
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 |   scrummie02 Bentley Premium join:2004-04-16 Arlington, VA
| I think not..he's republican. Remember the Dems in his time were protesting and smoking dope, he was at the commie prison camp. I like McCain, he does what he thinks is right for the people and holds people accountable.
BOTH parties just want to get their own in office. The current administration plays on the religious right, the current dems play on anything that isn't Bush and republican conspiracy. Both parties lie, cheat and screw you over.
McCain has the ballocks to stand up to things he thinks are sh*t. Gotta respect that. | |
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  anon7007
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 bogey780
join:2004-03-19 Here
| McCain ever the populist is greasing the skids for a presidential run.
Well, he might as well kiss it goodbye. He stabbed enough party faithful in the back last month to ever win any national primary.
PS- I flirted with the idea of supporting McCain in 2000 and even signed on with his campaign to receive info. | |
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 |   JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA | Re: Small, unintrusive government Well, the problem IS the party faithful. | |
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 |   tapeloop 1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss. Premium join:2004-06-27 Airstrip One
| said by bogey780 :McCain ever the populist is greasing the skids for a presidential run. Well, he might as well kiss it goodbye. He stabbed enough party faithful in the back last month to ever win any national primary. PS- I flirted with the idea of supporting McCain in 2000 and even signed on with his campaign to receive info. You mean he WAS stabbed IN THE BACK by enough "party faithful" (the Rove wing of the GOP) during the 2000 primaries. SC ring a bell?
Must...stay...on...topic...:D | |
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 |  |   LegoPower77 Abecedarian Premium join:2002-08-03 Arlington, VA
| Re: Small, unintrusive government Actually McCain's undoing in SC was his own. He spoke quite forcefully against Pat Roberts and the "Religious Right"... In South Carolina of all places, N.B.: That's why he lost. -- "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." Ronald Reagan | |
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said by LegoPower77 :Actually McCain's undoing in SC was his own. He spoke quite forcefully against Pat Roberts and the "Religious Right"... In South Carolina of all places, N.B.: That's why he lost. (momentarily throws topic to one side)
Actually in was in your state of VA that McCain spoke out against against Robertson & Falwell.
Not only that, it would have been rather difficult for those comments to affect his SC numbers, since he made the speech on Feb. 28--nine days after the SC primary was held. 
And it wasn't so much an attack as a declaration that the GOP shouldn't be turned over wholesale to the hardliners (which, no matter how you slice it, Pat Robertson is.):
I am a pro-life, pro-family, fiscal conservative, and advocate of a strong defense. And yet, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and a few Washington leaders of the pro-life movement call me an unacceptable presidential candidate. They distort my pro-life positions and smear the reputations of my supporters. Why? Because I don't pander to them, because I don't ascribe to their failed philosophy that money is our message. I believe in the cause of conservative reform....The Republican Party will prevail because of our principles--because that's what it's about, my friends--principles, not special interest money or empire or ego. ... Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right. Of course, not pandering to the Christian right is a sure way to lose a nomination...which McCain proved. 
But you'd be remiss to think that Rove's "whisper campaign" had no part in McCain's primary defeat in SC.
(picks topic up again, dusts it off, sits down to tea) -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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| Re: Small, unintrusive government I stand corrected. It was SC where he spoke out against Bob Jones and damned himself there. His subsequent attacks on Pat Roberts (irrespective of how we feel about him) in VA ensured his loss in a number of other southern primaries. -- "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." Ronald Reagan | |
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 Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19 66308 | I wonder how many astroturfers are posting on this website.
I see alot of stupid anti-muni comments.
REP. Sessions has a financial stake too. He might be posting antimuni comments here also. | |
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  asdfdfdf
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| To stave off bills like sessions, which was introduced in the US house of representatives.
There is lobbying going on at the federal level so the ilecs and cablecos don't have to fight this in every state, hence the necessity for a federal response. Thats the way this works. These companies fling shit in every direction and expect that something, somewhere, will stick. | |
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 t3freak
join:2004-04-11 New Port Richey, FL | "Why is this -republican- getting the federal government involved in state and local issues that the fed has no business being in?"
Because any fed law stomps a state law. Like the medical pot excuse. | |
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  JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA | Again, to clarify, I was refering to Sessions attempt to be "big government" man. Not McCain. | |
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  asdfdfdf
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