lstevens
join:2002-08-17
Brookline, MA | Custom Rings
Do any VoiP providers offer customized rings (not on your phone, but the ringing sound people here on their phone when they call you)? Some cellular providers are offering this; it seems that this would be easy for VoIP. |
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
 ·VoiceStick
| I don't think this is as easy as you make it sound. The caller's provider, whether it is telco, cellular, or VOIP does not control the ringing on a phone using a different telephone system. The ringing is generated by the provider of the line for the person being called. For example, if you call most telco lines in the US, you get the typical 2:1 ratio ring. If you call England or other European nations, they hear the shorter double rings and you can't change it. If you call a phone controlled by your telephone provider, yes they can offer non-standard ringing since they control both your phone and the receiver's phone. Calling another providers telephone does not mean your provider can control the ring generated by another companies equipment. |
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lstevens
join:2002-08-17
Brookline, MA
| I probably didn't express myself clearly--- that is what I meant. I want the VSOP to set up a custom ringing sound that users that call MY NUMBER will hear when they call me..... Again, Cellular Carriers offer this now....
»www.t-zones.co.uk/en/t_music/30c···ndex.jsp |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| said by lstevens  :I probably didn't express myself clearly--- that is what I meant. I want the VSOP to set up a custom ringing sound that users that call MY NUMBER will hear when they call me..... Again, Cellular Carriers offer this now.... » www.t-zones.co.uk/en/t_music/30c···ndex.jsp The dial tone and rings are generated by your ATA. So, that capability depends on the ATA firmware. Not on your VOIP provider. |
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RiftReaper
join:2002-02-21
Vancouver, WA | reply to lstevens
bbtelsys does
DISTINCTIVE RINGS FOR VIRTUAL NUMBERS |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX | Still it is a function of the ATA. SIP protocol does not carry the ring tones... |
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lstevens
join:2002-08-17
Brookline, MA
2 edits | agreed.... so, which ATA's can do it?
(Dr. TCP..good catch! I didn't know that. Is it just a matter of finding a .wav file (or similar) in the ATA and replacing it)?
.... btw, what bbtelsys provides is distinctive ring on your physical phone (many have this), NOT what the calling party hears (which is the topic of this thread)... |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
1 edit | Sipura ATAs support distinctive ring.
Well I was not totally correct. In addition to ATA suppport, the provider also needs to insert Alert-Info header in their SIP INVITE (Incoming call packet) to identify which distinctive ring should be generated by the ATA. So, it is actually combination of both.
But Sipura can also generate distictive rings based on up to 8 CID patterns without any support from the VOIP provider.
»www.sipura.com/Documents/faq/Sec···.html#10 |
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Fisamo
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC
·VOIPo
·AT&T CallVantage
| Are you sure the TA generates the "ringout" tone (e.g. what the caller hears)? I know that the TA generates the dial tone and the actual ring patterns that the VoIP subscriber would hear. However, I would have thought that the ringout tone would be generated by the telephone provider at the head end, and as such could be programmed however the provider wishes. That exact service is now also being offered by Verizon Wireless--see »www.verizonwireless.com/rbt But cell phones are not the same as VoIP, so it could be that the signalling is handled differently.
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
1 edit | said by Fisamo :Are you sure the TA generates the "ringout" tone (e.g. what the caller hears)? I know that the TA generates the dial tone and the actual ring patterns that the VoIP subscriber would hear. However, I would have thought that the ringout tone would be generated by the telephone provider at the head end, and as such could be programmed however the provider wishes. Ahhh.. I re-read the original message. I now understand what you guys mean.
Yes, whatever ring cadance generated on receiving end when you place calls is up to the provider and technology of the remote receiving end. You cannot do anything for that.
Cell phone ringout control in a single cell provider network is different and is most likely confined to that provider. I think Cingular provides the same feature for a nominal charge. I would not pay a single penny for such features but probably someone find value (novelty?). I personally would like to control the ring-in tones. I would not be pleased if someone would override the incoming ring patters (or ringtones). |
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Fisamo
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC
·VOIPo
·AT&T CallVantage
| Agreed. The concept sounds fun, but not really worth paying extra for IMO. (Verizon charges an extra $1/mo for the service plus $2/year for use of the tone.) I don't know of any VoIP providers offering a similar service, but I could see some subscribers paying extra for it.
As for control over the ring tones (ring in), I don't see that changing from the phone itself (for cellular systems) or the TA--and phone that's connected to it (for VoIP systems).
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