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helix139

join:2002-05-11
Lake Wales, FL

reply to B
Re: 500 kbps here now...

Well I can tell you now that the Samsung i730 is closer in size to a Treo, with an external antenna. The screen is smaller, though both are 320x240. The Samsung will have a consumer grade IR transmitter. It has 64MB of RAM and 128MB ROM, where with the 6600 the reverse is true. Supposedly there will be an upgrade path to WM2005 but given Samsung's history with the i700 we'll have to wait and see. The i730 will have WiFi and EVDO. The nice thing about the 6600 is it is an HTC and much of the support available by Blue Angel owners applies to us Harrier owners as well.

B
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join:2000-10-28

reply to helix139
Thanks, helix. I got a different impression from reading the forums, but I'll take your word for it on those corrections. (By the way, $80 is still completely insane. )

I'm interested in seeing how the new Samsung compares to your Audiovox, which has been the only real game in town. There have been substantial rumors that they may NOT cripple away the Samsung's built in 802.11.

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function

pandora
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reply to elias
Well, my point was sometimes you want a small browser in your pocket, and when you do, high bandwidth while nice, may not be as important. Cost becomes a concern, Cingular charges for example by line, in our family we have 2 lines enabled for unlimited internet, cost is about $32. My understanding is this would be about $160 with Verizon, BUT Verizon would get high speed. If I traveled often and wanted high speed in a laptop this would appeal more. It really depends on what they are marketing to.
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elias
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join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
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reply to pandora
I forgot about BT's limiation, but still.

They make PC-cards for connecting to the cell networks. There's even a new Sony laptop that has a slot for a SIM card in it.

Perhaps in the future, laptops can have built-in HSDPA radios in addition to WiFi.

-- Elias
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Crunching the Midnight Oil

helix139

join:2002-05-11
Lake Wales, FL

reply to B
Nope they won't. I have the audiovox XV6600 PocketPC with EVDO and with the $45 a month plan you can tether it to your laptop with USB or use bluetooth and end up with EVDO speeds using a free utility called wmodem. I haven't heard of anyone being cut off, aside from people attempting to run a server or DLing many many gigs of data. In that case they were just told to pay the $80, in leiu of the $45, not on top of the $45. Many people are using their XV6600's to access streaming video and music broadcasted from their home computer, and some I have heard of even using VoIP. Trust me, once you have EVDO you won't want to go back.

pandora
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reply to B
Ouch, Cingular doesn't seem to mind my tethering a laptop to my phone for occasional in hotel surfing. When traveling, I'm willing to accept analog modem speed as there is no need for major downloading / uploading.

I'm unsure how secure GPRS is vs wireless in a hotel or shared broadband.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."

B
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join:2000-10-28

reply to elias
No, it can't. Current BlueTooth maxes out at 721 kbps, nowhere near 14 Mbps.

Apparently even with EVDO, if you wish to use the cell phone as a wireless modem, Verizon will charge you an additional $80 per month in addition to the additional $45 per month for the phone's data service in addition to the $50 or more per month for their cell phone plan.

That's an awful lot of cash for a 512 kbps wireless connection.

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function

pandora
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reply to elias
Yeah,
But my point is I don't want to carry around a laptop, with a small screen broadband doesn't help much. I've got a laptop, a net enabled cell phone, and broadband. Each is nice, however the laptop doesn't fit in my shirt pocket, doesn't provide cell phone service, and has no integrated photo / video camera.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."


elias
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reply to pandora
The point is that a Bluetooth-enabled cell phone can be used as a 'wireless modem' for your laptop, where you can appreciate 14mbps speeds.

-- Elias
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Crunching the Midnight Oil

pandora
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reply to B
My Treo 600 goes slow, with Cingular GPRS, however with discount it's only an extra $16 a month for unlimited. My need for high bandwidth on a 2-4" LCD with microscopic keyboard is pretty limited.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."
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