said by Rothan Tik :

It'd almost be easier for them to not allow the Internet if they wanted to avoid that. It'll ultimately help the country reform from the inside out though. I give China another 15-20 years before the State finally gives way to the younger populace who embrace Capitalism.

said by Rothan Tik :

It'd almost be easier for them to not allow the Internet if they wanted to avoid that. It'll ultimately help the country reform from the inside out though. I give China another 15-20 years before the State finally gives way to the younger populace who embrace Capitalism.

said by Rothan Tik :

It'd almost be easier for them to not allow the Internet if they wanted to avoid that. It'll ultimately help the country reform from the inside out though. I give China another 15-20 years before the State finally gives way to the younger populace who embrace Capitalism.

said by Transmaster :

It simply won't work for them. It will be just as bad for the regular citizen like communism is now.

said by Rothan Tik :

It'd almost be easier for them to not allow the Internet if they wanted to avoid that. It'll ultimately help the country reform from the inside out though. I give China another 15-20 years before the State finally gives way to the younger populace who embrace Capitalism.

It simply won't work for them. It will be just as bad for the regular citizen like communism is now.

said by rideboarder :

For their sake, I hope they never go into capitalism quite as far as the US.

said by Transmaster :

What do you mean it won't work do you know anything about Chinese history. They where Merchants when the city of Rome was a few mud huts on the top of a pair of hills on the Italian peninsula. There was the Silk Road. Chinese merchant ships trading with Southeast Asia, India, and the east coast of Africa, when Europe was still in the dark ages. they also may have traded with Meso-American civilizations a thousand years ago. The Chinese have been business minded culture for over 3000 years.

said by Captain Obvious:

No, it is actually an example of what stupid governance can bring about, as well as being a prime example of how power shifts almost cyclically. Think about it, the seat of "world domination" has shifted all over the globe. From the Africa, to the Middle East, to East Asia, to Europe, to the North America and North Asia, and now back to the Asian Pacific.

The US empire is declining just as surely as the Chinese, Roman, European (all of them), Japanese, and Soviet empires fell - and for largely the same reasons.

said by Transmaster :

Yes I know look at the paradise it is in Cuba and North Korea.

said by rideboarder :

what? I hope that isn't directed at me, since I never said anything at all that communism is a paradise.

edit: but I can say for sure that capitalism like it's done in the U.S. isn't a paradise either...unless you're rich.

said by DaveNJ The thing killing America the most now is the loss of freedom of speech, see politically correct. Also the disrepect to people of faith. [/BQUOTE:

I'd have to agree with you as far as freedom of speech goes...there are two menaces to that, one being the "Watch what you do, watch what you say" attitude of the new Police State that sprang up like poisonous mushrooms after 9/11, the other being the growing trend towards limitless copyright and rent-seeking on intellectual property. What you call "Political Correctness" has shifted mightily towards censoring anything that isn't pro-Right Wing, pro-Bush, and pro-war.

Disrespect to "people of faith?" Well, if your faith is Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Catholic Christianity, Wicca, Paganism or anything that isn't Fundamentalist Protestant Christianity, then yeah, your faith is being disrespected every day in George W. Bush's America. All the grants that have been going to "faith-based" charities have been going to those of the Protestant Christian faith.

The Jewish Federation Council and B'nai Brith, deserving Jewish charities that they are, provide vital services to the poor and unfortunate all over the US, particularly in the Northeast and in the Los Angeles area. They have been doing this for at least 100 years. Have they gotten grants under Bush's new programs? No. And not for lack of trying either.

As far as the more "far-out" faiths I mentioned, like Buddhism and Wicca...they have seen outright repression under Bush's administration. Just recently a conservative judge ruled that a child born to two Wiccan parents could not be educated in the faith he was born into. Those parents might lose custody of their child because of their beliefs. Buddhists and Unitarian Universalists have lost tax exempt status in Texas because they are "soft" on the idea of a supreme deity.

You right-wing Fundies are not being disrespected. On the contrary, you are becoming the ruling caste in America. And you will not rest until everyone either believes as you do, leaves the country, or dies. If anything, it is you people who are weakening this country. The Founders are spinning in their graves.

Oh yeah, regarding Sweden? They have one of the strongest economies in Europe.
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