ARIN owns you
@verizon.net
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Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT!
said by "dibbkd":
They paid for it way back when.
If they want to sell some subnets they will, if not, they won't. I'm not saying it's right, I think it would be better to let ISP's use them, but hey, that's how it is now.
Actually, back then, they didn't pay for them, they simply got an allocation/assignment of those IPs from ARIN. (Or was that before ARIN, I don't remember.) They likewise can't "sell" them, they would instead simply return the IP allocations back to ARIN, and then they would redistribute them.
Back then, no-one really realized how big or popular the internet would get, or how the IPv4 addresses would eventually reach a point of there being shortages, so they handed out /8 blocks left and right to the "bigger" companies that asked for them. I'm sure that DEC (now part of HP/Compaq), and Sun Microsystems both have huge IP blocks allocated to them too. (As well as MS.) |
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al gore rythm
@verizon.net | reply to Freezone
Al Gore promotes the creation of technology at every turn - because technology created Al Gore! He's an android, people, can't you see that??! He wants to create more like him. |
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health is strength
@verizon.net
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said by "fiberguy":
And yea... while other countries have it all, why not move there? How about Canada and their lovely health care? You know the one where you could probably die from your illness before your appointment date? But they sure do have great cable tv and internet eh? You betchya!
As compared to the number of people that have died or are in the process of dying (or living with a greatly-reduced quality-of-life, which also reduces their individual capacity for contribution to the GNP), due to them not having health insurance at all, because they cannot afford it!
This is caused primarily because the private insurers offering it charge too much, and the private employers paying these people, don't provide it, nor pay their workers enough to afford to pay for it directly. (Such as Wal-Mart, that intentionally doesn't allow a large portion of their workers to work enough hours to qualify for health insurance, and instead tells them to sign up for their state's welfare-funded health-insurance programs instead - just so they can post higher profits.)
I haven't had health insurance for years, here, and am (unfortunately) suffering because of that fact. Perhaps I really should move to Canada. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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Forgive me, I didn't realize that this website ahd a political taking. I didn't know this was a left only board. Maybe this explains the entitlement attitude here.
The U.S. - when was the government implicated in this? I think it speaks of the U.S. in whole.
And yea... while other countries have it all, why not move there? How about Canada and their lovely health care? You know the one where you could probably die from your illness before your appointment date? But they sure do have great cable tv and internet eh? You betchya!
How about China, better speeds, but where, oh where do you find room in your 4' x 4' apartment, er, I mean, POD to put that computer, monitor and keyboard? Ask their corrupt government for more room.
I didn't know it was all about the internet here. The U.S. has alot to offer. Even if you dont' like the right wing of this country, which I am not a big fan of either, you are still free to come to a baord like this and blast your own government.. not many other countries allow it.
Really, why don't you take a good look at what you have and stop your whining once and for all! We are the U.S. and I would never want to call any other country home. The U.S. may have faults, but I will take ours anyday over what other countries have to deal with!
If you don't liek the U.S., leave! |
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dibbb
join:2003-09-19
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| reply to raye
It's the same reason a lot of other Fortune 100 companies have their own Class A block of IP's.
The chemical company I work for owns their own whole Class A or "/8" subnet too. On my company PC, and every person's PC in the company we have a "real" IP address, nobody uses a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or whatever.
They paid for it way back when.
If they want to sell some subnets they will, if not, they won't. I'm not saying it's right, I think it would be better to let ISP's use them, but hey, that's how it is now. |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI
| reply to sporkme
What Al Gore did say was pretty stupid though. What he wanted to say was that he helped introduce policy that helped to create the internet that we have today. He does deserve some credit in that regard, after all I doubt that on his watch we would have fallen so far behind broadband. |
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
| reply to NothingBetter
said by NothingBetter:
Is that true with those televangelists too? Their on the right...and who was that one that was banging Jessica Hahn?
What a bunch of hypocrites.
Oh...and I hope that fathead Rush has to. According to his own thoughts, he should be locked up for life for being a drug addict.
I don't get the whole divided issue..left or right,Republican or Democrat...they are all out for themselves and you can't believe a word they say. It's more like rich vs not-so rich vs. not-so poor vs. poor.
who was on the right bangin' jessica hahn, well, a man, a televangelist that fell from the ideal he chose to live up to and ask people to live up to as well... does that negate the message by having a faulty man delivering the message...? people make mistakes every day, you, me, everyone... hypocrisy isn't a crime, but people who see it and excise it from within their ranks are doing the world a favor...
sure, jim baker commited adultry and as a minister lied to his flock and brought shame upon himself and that's too bad, but his actions do not make the message hypocritical... and as for your comment about rush limbaugh, the same applies to him too... and i find that your uncompassionate attitude towards those have problems regardless of their status to be distasteful and indicative of your total lack of understand about these issues... have some compassion, man... throw a helping hand out to someone how trips and falls...
i'm not talking about being sympathetic to rapists and murderers, but to those that allow vice and bad decision making to delude their perceptions and thusly leads to making wrong choices... |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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said by pnh102  :Of course we own the Internet. Actually, that doesn't apply any more... DARPA is dead. The Internet as it existed is gone.
We invented it after all. So? A Lot of things that we enjoy in this country were invented in other nations and you don't have the same arrogant, eight year old attitude from them about it.
It doesn't matter who invented it any more because no one nation or company "owns" the Internet.
Oh, and God Bless America! If there is a God, he/she/it probably could care less about the B.S. politics and nations of the world... God is not an America or a capitalist...
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steevio
Saving Lives One Shift At A Time
join:2003-06-22
Valencia, CA | reply to lupinia
AMEN |
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MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN | reply to jwersan
You misunderstand me. I meant "no he didn't [say that]". Don't worry, some day you'll be clever. |
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NothingBetter
@208.17.x.x
| reply to pnh102
Is that true with those televangelists too? Their on the right...and who was that one that was banging Jessica Hahn?
What a bunch of hypocrites.
Oh...and I hope that fathead Rush has to. According to his own thoughts, he should be locked up for life for being a drug addict.
I don't get the whole divided issue..left or right,Republican or Democrat...they are all out for themselves and you can't believe a word they say. It's more like rich vs not-so rich vs. not-so poor vs. poor. |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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| reply to jwersan
said by jwersan :said by kapil :...we "own" the Internet.. No we don't, Al Gore does!!  Well he does, he invented it!  Didn't he???  Well that's what he says...  Some rumors just won't die. Please, don't let that stop you from repeating them.
»www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp |
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jwersan
R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, and Max.
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said by MightyPez :said by jwersan :No we don't, Al Gore does!! Well he does, he invented it! Didn't he??? Well that's what he says... No he didn't! But don't let the facts get in the way. I know that!!
Hence the line "Well that's what he says...
Have a nice day!  |
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MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN
·Comcast
| reply to jwersan
said by jwersan :No we don't, Al Gore does!! Well he does, he invented it! Didn't he??? Well that's what he says... No he didn't! But don't let the facts get in the way. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to raye
said by raye :This is not a rant against Haliburton specifically, but why do they still have a 34.0.0.0/8 block. Or the other corps for that matter? Because Halliburton is the cause of all evil all over the world, since the time of Adam and Eve.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | reply to raye
Hey...if Harley Davidson can have one, why can't Dick's Halliburton?
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| reply to kapil
This is not a rant against Haliburton specifically, but why do they still have a 34.0.0.0/8 block. Or the other corps for that matter?
I understand ISPs, but is Haliburton or GE going to have 16M computers that need static IP addresses.
Somebody ought to require them to give them up, IMHO |
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
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join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs: | reply to lupinia
The band or the girls?
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
| reply to jwersan
said by jwersan :said by kapil :...we "own" the Internet.. No we don't, Al Gore does!! Well he does, he invented it! Didn't he??? Well that's what he says... No, the media. :P
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lupinia
Premium
join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA | reply to pnh102
Depends on how badly they suck  |
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