BeesTea
Network Janitor
Premium,VIP
join:2003-03-08
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| reply to qos1
Re: bit torrent
said by qos1  :the reason that insight want's to block it is to lower their infrastructure cost's not police the content...either way IMO is totally unacceptable from Insight. The reason is to lower their costs, that much you're correct about. But it's not because so many people are using BT. It's because so many people are using BT illegally. Insight is having to take on more costs so that their customer-base can break the law using their service. It makes no sense at all for them to foster that. Essentially, the minority of customers (who have heard of BT at all), who the majority of are infringing on copyright, are driving up costs to support the majority of customers. As a provider, it's in Insight's interest to try and mitigate that cost.
I suspect they've been doing temporary BT blocks to get an idea of how much it's actually costing them. I also suspect that if it's a lot, BT will go away for good from the network.
I know people say "Hey I bought N Mbps of capacity and I should be able to do what I want!" Those folks need to reread their AUP and if they don't agree, lease a trunk from their telco. If you can get Insight, you can get a trunk. There's none of this "Insight is the only provider I can have." Insight gives better than T1 performance for less than $100.00 a month. All you have to do is play by the rules. Want to set your own rules ? Buy your own line.
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qos1
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
| Yes lowering cost's (infrastructure) is the key...but
be it from linux distro's or "other" content you nor insight can prove that this is what people are using their BT for...and what difference is to Insight??? NONE whatsover...BANDWIDTH+EQUIPMENT=$$$ That is their concern, Insight would be happy if you just browsed a couple websites and sent a couple of email's a day and that is all..
Insight is more than happy to sell you the service BUT when you want to use it is when they have a problem with it...
Downloading Content infringing copyright's vs legal BT use has no additional cost to Insight whatsover I challenge you to show me otherwise...
As a provider it is in Insight's best interest to try (key word most of the time being try) and run a network not police end user morality...
For those that have not noticed bandwidth price's have dropped considerably within the past several year's and will continue to fall...
And no the statement Insight provides better than DS1 performance is only 1/2 true...it is not even close on the upload side of things 384 or 512 != 1544...
And yes I have read the AUP and legally it does cover action's such as these...
IMO If insight can't take the BT they need to
1)Build a better network
2)Just get out of the business
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Help4U2
@insight-com.com
| Downloading Content infringing copyright's vs legal BT use has no additional cost to Insight whatsover I challenge you to show me otherwise... Challenge accepted, whom do you think copyright holders send their subpoenas to? All they send are IP address to an ISP. The ISP is required to have employees look up customer information and inform these customers of what is going on. They must then also send this information back to the copyright holders. The time it takes a person to perform this job costs money.
With legal uses of BT there are no subpoenas based on what is being sent. Therefore there is a cost difference between legal and illegal uses of BT. Challenge accepted and challenge won, have a nice day please drive through. |
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qos1
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
2 edits | WoW what a load sh!t..I don't know where to begin..
You mean to tell me that the cost of passing a couple letters on to a customer is signifigant enough to even consider!!?! Gimme a break.
Ok you tell me how much this cost's insight then? And remember you are probably refering to staff that makes not much more than min. wage here...I can make a claim that someone downloaded copyright'd material of mine to any ISP if they downloaded it or not, through BT or not,this is not BT specific...BFD...I am talking of substantial cost's that are worth noting!! not nickle and dime stuff I'm sure Insight loses more money with employee's standing around on smoke breaks...so let's get real here...
Challenge accpeted and challenge lost, Please try again have a nice day bla bla bla |
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Help4U2
@insightBB.com
| I like how the challenge rules changed in your last post. You said "BT use has no additional cost to Insight whatsover" I proved it does. Now your new rule is substantial costs. I am not saying it costs a tone of money but it does cost more then 0 which is what you first said to prove. |
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qos1
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | said by Help4U2:
I like how the challenge rules changed in your last post. You said "BT use has no additional cost to Insight whatsover"
Please if you are going to quote, quote my entire statement not just the fragment you want to pick at and take out of context...
And why don't you post as a registered user?? Kinda trolling huh? |
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