Maxeh
Woot?
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join:2002-12-23
Chicago, IL
clubs: | on average,
you get around 10-15gb (more really) of ENGLISH mp3s released in warez scene daily,
on the internet, free always wins |
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DarkSorcerer
Premium
join:2004-06-15
Belleview, FL
| The Music Labels Really shot themselves in the foot, when they went after napser, and they've shot everyone else too...
With new p2p Technology showing up daily/weekly/monthly there's no way they can catch up, and with generation after generation getting more decentralized and private they let the cat out the bag, and it's a breeding like crazy |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| I agree. With Napster they had a centralized system that could have been used to easily track and distribute payments. They could have enticed users in with free low-bitrate copies of the music (say, around FM radio quality), but charged for higher bitrate (e.g. CD quality) versions for the users to download. With a bit of work, the original Napster could have easily become an "iTunes" type of shop only without all of the illegal P2P trading as competition.
Instead, they took the "sue them out of existence until we figure this Internet thing out" approach. They wound up having to compete with a few dozen different P2P networks whose users distribute free (albeit illegal) versions of the same music they're trying to sell. They also wound up (by suing users) with some bad PR.
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t10
join:2003-05-25
Woodbridge, ON
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said by Maxeh  :you get around 10-15gb (more really) of ENGLISH mp3s released in warez scene daily, on the internet, free always wins yeah, keeping up is a b*tch aint it?
PS. Whoever came up with the idea to relabel dance as trance, needs to be shot.
twice.
in the left testicle.
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
 ·Charter Pipeline
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·Speakeasy
| reply to Jason Levine
The sad thing is that online Music doesn't HAVE to be this way. Because the "Industry" is looking to make money at every angle they can, we get crap like DRM and the DMCA. However, part of the blame does lie with the Artist, and I say that only because they don't bother to seek out an alternative, or else they don't care. Most artists have the clout to stand up and say no, but they choose not to. Who can blame them, they have bills to pay just like everyone else, and when they make about 1/10 of the money the labels do (off of THEIR music) who can really blame them.
No one can say that there isn't an alternative, however. See my sig for more details. If WE will spread the word about sites like this, then eventually everyone can benefit from it.
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blackjeep
join:2001-07-12
Atlanta, GA | reply to t10
Shame on you!
Dance and Trance are too different types of Electronic music. Very different styles of music there. |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to t10
Re: on average,
said by t10 : Whoever came up with the idea to relabel dance as trance, needs to be shot. Never did understand that. Not a single "trance" song out there is anywhere near transcendental EDM. I could list a few I think would fall into that category and NONE of them call their music trance. |
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
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join:2001-03-25
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May 13th, @03:33PM
| reply to blackjeep
Re: Shame on you!
said by blackjeep :Dance and Trance are too different types of Electronic music. Very different styles of music there. Yeah I agree with this too.
Speaking of these two song genres, does anyone know where to download legal dance and trance musics from sources that get new songs often? Oh and for free and not streaming types. |
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sivran
God Save The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Jason Levine
Re: on average,
Unfortunately Label CEOs and big good-ol'-boy networks like the RIAA and MPAA can't see beyond the end of their collective snout. When they saw Napster it didn't occur to any of them that this might be the beginning of something new and exciting for their customers and potentially profitable for them the good ol' boys. Just like the good ol' boys of the MPAA saw the VCR as a profit-eating monster instead of a golden goose...
They're late to a game they don't know how to play, and where the other team already has a ten point lead. And they still haven't figured it out.
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doubleak
join:2002-08-21
Denver, CO | reply to antdude
Re: Shame on you!
For legal (i.e pay) electronic/dance music, checkout www.beatport.com
Beatport is considered the iTunes of the Electronic scene. |
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raydog1
Feel Secure
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join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN
| reply to sivran
Re: on average,
More like, a 1,000,000 point lead. 
The MPAA was hesitant, at first, to go the RIAA "sue them QUICK!" route. It's like someone in the organization (with brains) was saying, "Wait a minute. We can't fight this, but, we could make money off of it!" Unfortunately, there are way too many hands in the pot. . . something that has plagued the movie industry for decades. I think it will take many, many years before they figure out a way to make this work for both the consumer and the money-grubbing execs.  |
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colorthelephant
@verizon.n
| reply to Maxeh
Well, it makes no sense to hide the fact that content gets pirated over the internet. The best yahoo can accomplish is to re-package that content for a subscription model all the while giving consumers everything they want-- ie the abiltiy to do whatever they want with the content and to have it ALL in ONE PLACE while shielding them from potential copyright infringement as a benefit. This is the kind of model that will perpetuate an ALL-IN-ONE content provider for software, text, multimedia, music, movies, etc, etc downloadable at ONE place... which is not what the yahoo offering is, but would have to move towards if it is to be successful in the long term.
And the coyright holders? If they don't agree, they can still deal with either limited royalties, or no royalties, their choice. |
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justlittleoldme
@comcast.net | reply to doubleak
Re: Shame on you!
"Beatport is considered the iTunes of the Electronic scene."
Actually, a lot of us are using Traxsource.com now. 320 kbps rips rock! |
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carlosc1dbz
@rr.com
| reply to antdude
Well i would just like to state my opinions. I think that the music industry really messed up and had a good chance to work with napster. Also trying to stop p2p is imposible and is going to get worse, or better depending on how you look at it. All i know is that p2p is great.
carlosc1dbz |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to Maxeh
Re: on average,
what the RIAA needs to do is bring all its members under one .com roof and offer their Entire libraries for download(pay service of course), i dont just mean the latest and greatest tunes but everything they have every published, with disc space so cheap today it wouldnt cost that much to build that kind of server space, i mean what they must be spending in legal fees for suing people could cover the cost of building this.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Considering all the competitive backbiting in the industry and the incessant greed such a thing will not happen if the major labels held the reigns. Too many people will be demanding a bigger piece of the pie. Now get a group of indie labels together like that and you will have something. I think some are already joining forces like this. |
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