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Karl Bode
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Re: cant be that expensive

Seems like making everything wireless makes the most sense to me.....put that MIMO gear to some actual work...


clickwir

join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA
security, bandwidth, lag, security, there are like 500 diffrent types of wireless, security, interferance, security.... hmmm. Looks like there are still way too many problems with wireless.


Karl Bode
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Security? Does my Discovery Duck special in HD really need more than WPA2?

Run an ethernet line to your desktop....


Smokey
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But think of the QOS issues Im sure that will bring.
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Karl Bode
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The bottleneck is going to be the pipe coming into the home if companies insist on using ADSL2+ and compression to serve multiple HD feeds....


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True, but I'm thinking more of what happens when I move my lappy from the room with the ap, to backyard and the like. I can only imagine that a strong signal will be needed to feed TV over wireless, and what happens when all your neighbors have the same setup? I'm sure solutions can be found, but why not just come up with a way to interface the IPtv with coax at side of the home?
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jazzy112

join:2003-12-05
Fargo, ND

reply to Karl Bode
I install wireless internet based on 802.11b, and I would be the first one to tell you thast wireless is worthless for streaming HD, packet loss when you turn on the microwave or your new Whirlpool HT Dryer or your 2.4ghz phone. At $.06/foot and $.23/connector I would run Cat 5 and be done with it. Even a traditional 100mb network would stress streaming 3 full HD streams. Let alone the 6 that would be required for my home, you better bring me a 1gbps connection if you want to deliver me HD over IP. I don't want that compressed crapo either, I would just watch SD if that were the case.


Karl Bode
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That's just it, in cases like with SBC, to fit HD streams under the 24Mbps roof they'll be all compressed anyway....

Not saying wireless is a good answer (I think coax and sat service already own the niche), but just an answer...

Fiber is the future.


Topmounter
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The bottleneck is going to be the pipe coming into the home if companies insist on using ADSL2+ and compression to serve multiple HD feeds....

BINGO!!!!


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The problem is video needs a very consistent connection, even if it's not particularly fast. 802.11b/g barely gets out of a room before it succumbs to fluctuating speeds and packet loss. I've tried streaming 8mbps DVD quality MPEG-2 on my 54mbps G network just one room away and it was totaly unacceptable.

I'm sure some people will chime in with their successes doing this, but it would need to work more definitively before SBC could begin selling it as an option. Maybe MIMO will make video distribution over wireless more of a reality, but I'm afraid it's not something that the IPTV companies can bank on at this time.

As far as hardwired IPTV goes, IPTV pretty much on par with satellite. Satellite also requires a STB for every TV, and generally requires a new RG6 run unless the house is new enough to have RG6 in the walls.

Also, the $50-per-install "windshield cost" is absurdly high. Do they only plan on servicing one customer 100 miles away from dispatch per day? And eight hours to install a CAT5 drop? If they do it like cable and satellite, they will just jam the wire through an exterior wall. It's up to the subscriber if they want to do it more neatly.
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