Rob
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Kendall, FL
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Re: Bellsouth did this with IFITL
said by The Right Info:
You are wrong. IFITL is not even close to the same thing. IFITL uses fiber to the curb and then standard CAT3/CAT5 cabling to the house. No fiber NIDs or special equipment on the customers side.
So where is the copper for IFITL Users? THey removed the existing copper and ran fiber to the curb and then cat3/cat5 to the house. Which means we can never pick another DSL provider, we *must* use Bellsouth with their 1.5/256 $45/mo. whereas cable is 4.0/384 for $42.95. hmm
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
1 edit | said by Rob  :said by The Right Info:
You are wrong. IFITL is not even close to the same thing. IFITL uses fiber to the curb and then standard CAT3/CAT5 cabling to the house. No fiber NIDs or special equipment on the customers side.
So where is the copper for IFITL Users? THey removed the existing copper and ran fiber to the curb and then cat3/cat5 to the house. Which means we can never pick another DSL provider, we *must* use Bellsouth with their 1.5/256 $45/mo. whereas cable is 4.0/384 for $42.95. hmm This is stupid - why would this mean you cannot choose anybody else?
What's the difference between Verion-owned copper or Verizon-owned fiber? If they'll be less competietive, you'll simply call up another company, cable or DSL and they'll either have access to Verizon's fiber or will pull in or reactivate your old copper. It's not your job to care about that - for example I upgraded my Speakeasy last year to OneLink, a copper pulled-in and owned by Speakeasy (or Covad, dunno'), so I waS able to get rid of Verizon and their cheating incorrect billing practices from my life forever. |
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Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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| said by kamm :said by Rob :said by The Right Info:
You are wrong. IFITL is not even close to the same thing. IFITL uses fiber to the curb and then standard CAT3/CAT5 cabling to the house. No fiber NIDs or special equipment on the customers side.
So where is the copper for IFITL Users? THey removed the existing copper and ran fiber to the curb and then cat3/cat5 to the house. Which means we can never pick another DSL provider, we *must* use Bellsouth with their 1.5/256 $45/mo. whereas cable is 4.0/384 for $42.95. hmm This is stupid - why would this mean you cannot choose anybody else? What's the difference between Verion-owned copper or Verizon-owned fiber? If they'll be less competietive, you'll simply call up another company, cable or DSL and they'll either have access to Verizon's fiber or will pull in or reactivate your old copper. It's not your job to care about that - for example I upgraded my Speakeasy last year to OneLink, a copper pulled-in and owned by Speakeasy (or Covad, dunno'), so I waS able to get rid of Verizon and their cheating incorrect billing practices from my life forever. Sadly, IFITL doesn't have regulations like copper and Bellsouth is not forced to allow other ISPS (ie. Speakeasy) to sell the service. Therefore, we must use bellsouth with the standard 1.5/256 speeds (they do not support higher speeds).
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roamer1
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Atlanta, GA
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said by Rob :So where is the copper for IFITL Users? THey removed the existing copper and ran fiber to the curb and then cat3/cat5 to the house. Which means we can never pick another DSL provider, we *must* use Bellsouth with their 1.5/256 $45/mo. whereas cable is 4.0/384 for $42.95. hmm Has BellSouth actually rebuilt existing neighborhoods with IFITL? Here in Atlanta, all the IFITL and DFITL/MX builds I've seen have been in new developments, not rebuilds.
As for choice of ISP: here, Speed Factory sells service to IFITL customers.
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fiber_man
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join:2001-01-27
Port Saint Lucie, FL
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Almost all new developments are using DFITL (FTTC). There are several neighborhoods in Miami-Dade that were retrofitted with IFITL/DFITL in the last few years. Some of them from what I have heard are using IPTV as a trial as I write this. I don't know how it is going! We are deploying the backbone for IPTV in this area right now.
As for copper going away forget it. What do you think powers all of the pedestals in the IFITL/DFITL deployments. Thats right 22 guage copper from the cabinet to the pedestal. 138V DC if you are wandering.
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