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Corvus
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Re: 3web - Sick of "unlimited download" claims yet

said by Sean See Profile:

there's no "bandwidth" bottleneck at a DSLAM. Provided there's enough bandwidth on the main network, every user at a DSLAM can download full throttle.
There is a bottleneck possible on DSL and it's at the DSLAM: Available bandwidth is limited by the capacity of installed fiber links.

It's the same for a HFC node: available bandwidth is limited by the capacity of installed fiber.

These two statements are true when:

1- The DSLAM has the appropriate number of slots for the number customers
2- The HFC node (serving group) has the appropriate number of customers vs capacity

Reasons why we barely see bottlenecks on DSLAM is because there's fewer DSLAMs than HFC nodes (fiber is centralized to only few points in cities, cutting cost of fiber since it's way shorter but more far of customers end) and because most DSL users only get speeds between 2.5 and 3.5 Mbps, reducing the load/stress on DSLAM.
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Re: 3web - Sick of "unlimited download" claims yet

said by Corvus See Profile:

said by Sean See Profile:

there's no "bandwidth" bottleneck at a DSLAM. Provided there's enough bandwidth on the main network, every user at a DSLAM can download full throttle.
There is a bottleneck possible on DSL and it's at the DSLAM: Available bandwidth is limited by the capacity of installed fiber links.

It's the same for a HFC node: available bandwidth is limited by the capacity of installed fiber.
That's true; but as far as I know, a HFC node has it's own bandwidth bottleneck regardless of the available fibre links, as is set by the DOCSIS standard it's using. Isn't that true?

Obviously both a DSLAM and a HFC node have available bandwidth link bottlenecks (though they aren't really, since often times theres enough bandwidth there), but AFAIK a HFC node has that extra bottleneck put in by the DOCSIS standard, that a DSLAM doesn't have.

Corvus
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Re: 3web - Sick of "unlimited download" claims yet

said by Sean See Profile:

Obviously both a DSLAM and a HFC node have available bandwidth link bottlenecks (though they aren't really, since often times theres enough bandwidth there), but AFAIK a HFC node has that extra bottleneck put in by the DOCSIS standard, that a DSLAM doesn't have.
Yes, DSLAM has this same bottleneck: the max capacity of the cards used PLUS distance limitations...
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