 MikeStammer No prison can hold me Premium join:2002-12-26 Aurora, IL | not quite end users still wont know what open source is, just that they have a different browser. the average joe doesn't care! | |
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  Sebastian Premium join:2000-12-22 New Haven, CT 2 edits | Re: not quite half of those downloads are probably from re-installs, upgrading, patching.. and those fake clicks. doubt they're unique. | |
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join:2004-09-08 Brownsburg, IN | Re: not quite Yeah, if they count every time they put a new update a download. Count about 20 from me.
Now that they are "mainstream" we will see more individuals trying to take advantage of the exploits. | |
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 |   RRedline Rated R Premium join:2002-05-15 Williamsport, PA | True, but how many people have installed it on other people's PC's from a CD or other removeable device? I have installed it on several friends' PC's from a flash drive. -- One nation, under Zod! | |
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@rr.com | Re: not quite So what is wrong with your system???? I have NEVER had a problem with Firefox.... It is my only Browser. | |
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join:2005-01-19 Cyberspace | Re: not quite I'll second that. I have yet to encounter a site that causes Firefox to hang or hard crash. | |
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3 edits | Re: not quite I ran across my first one the other day - the A&E TV network's Web site at »www.aetv.com/ . Funny how it crashes Firefox on my Windows XP machine but not on my Linux box... -- If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something. | |
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| Re: not quite I just clicked on it using Firefox with no problems. I don't have the latest updates for FF though so I have no idea if that's the reason. I think I found just one site so far that doesn't render properly on Firefox and it's probably because they are using FrontPage extensions or something like that (it's not a commercial site). | |
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| Re: not quite said by SRFireside :I don't have the latest updates for FF though so I have no idea if that's the reason. Congrats! Your going to be 50 mil and 1 d/l's when you do.  -- Table Tennis anyone? | |
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| said by insomniac :I ran across my first one the other day - the A&E TV network's Web site at » www.aetv.com/ . Funny how it crashes Firefox on my Windows XP machine but not on my Linux box... Funny thing is I just went there and No Crash, Hang or what not. And My Firefox is at 1.03, So I think It's just Your system possibly. -- Firefox forever! »zoom314.blogspot.com/ »mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ | |
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@comcast.net | Say What?? Shut down. My firefox would never close like the internet explorer thingy! If anything shuts down, then its internet deplorer, err internet explorer I mean. | |
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I use both and if I want a crash, just surf multiple pages running java in tabs... | |
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| Hi, like FF alot, but had one problem with it. Wanted to download 2 MP3 shows with FF. Where you would normally right click "save target as", I could only download the name of the file or the url.
So, had dust off my old IE, did the same thing and was able to download the entire file. This happened on another site with success using IE, but was unable to download using FF. Am probably missing info w/r and need to learn more. Anyway, I put the IE back in its box and haven't had a problem yet.
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| Re: not quite said by munsonburger :Hi, like FF alot, but had one problem with it. Wanted to download 2 MP3 shows with FF. Where you would normally right click "save target as", I could only download the name of the file or the url. So, had dust off my old IE, did the same thing and was able to download the entire file. This happened on another site with success using IE, but was unable to download using FF. Am probably missing info w/r and need to learn more. Anyway, I put the IE back in its box and haven't had a problem yet. Have a good day. This is actually a problem with the website code anot not firefox. Just so you know! | |
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| said by oliphant :Far fewer than those who have had to download it time and time again to address FF software updates. Oh... please .... and you don't have to update IE ... lol. -- »www.freeantennas.com | |
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join:2002-02-15 Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Re: not quite does ie post download statistics? because THAT is what we are talking about. | |
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| Re: not quite said by toddbs98 :You update IE.Firefox doesn't update you have to uninstall and reinstall a new version of Firefox. Big Difference. Either way you look at it, IE (windows update) patches are still bigger to download then the 11MB download of FF..... | |
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| FF auto-update to v1.03 worked fine for me. No Un-install required.
Heard others report the update option worked, thought I'd give it a try.
Backed up my profile to be safe, hit the software update button in options and bing ! ....all extensions, settings & tweaks are intact.
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| Re: not quite said by Xorro :FF auto-update to v1.03 worked fine for me. No Un-install required. Heard others report the update option worked, thought I'd give it a try. I haven't read from people that it didn't work.... Of course, people who don't use something often spout off old claims as if they're still the case... | |
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| Re: not quite said by oliphant :Like BSODs? Yeah, BSOD's don't happen to me anymore, what I get now is just a locked up console and no reason for it at all ...
Well that or the "I'd like to report the SSN of your first born!" window.
Personally I liked BSOD's better. -- »www.freeantennas.com | |
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| said by DaDogs :said by oliphant :Far fewer than those who have had to download it time and time again to address FF software updates. Oh... please .... and you don't have to update IE ... lol. I'm sorry, yet again you seem to not be able to read posts before replying to them. Where did I mention IE in my post again? -- Don't get it, demand it! The Anime Network www.theanimenetwork.com | |
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| I haven't seen the lights on at the Mozilla Foundation's main Mountain View office in almost a full week now, and I pass by their door (literally!) twice a day. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. In memory of 2005... | |
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| Re: not quite said by Hall :said by Bobb :Most of those downloads are just people trying to get the number up! Geez, with a statement like that, you imply that your statement is FACT when it's nothing more than your opinion. How 'bout choosing your wording a bit more accurately ? Well there obviously isn't Remotely close to fifty million users! And I think it's obvious to most that the number is artificial! Pretty funny really, this type of thing has been going on for a long time to make things look better or more used/accepted. This isn't like a revelation or something, old news... -- Latest Release: Avant Browser 10.0 Build 167, 03.31.2005»www.qwerks.com/download/5337/abs···geek.com | |
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| Re: not quite said by Bobb :said by Hall :said by Bobb :Most of those downloads are just people trying to get the number up! Geez, with a statement like that, you imply that your statement is FACT when it's nothing more than your opinion. How 'bout choosing your wording a bit more accurately ? Well there obviously isn't Remotely close to fifty million users! And I think it's obvious to most that the number is artificial! Pretty funny really, this type of thing has been going on for a long time to make things look better or more used/accepted. This isn't like a revelation or something, old news... I don't need a number to tell me FF is better than alternative browsers. Sure, 50 million sounds a bit unrealistic, but at the end of the day it's a great browser that can only get better. -- »www.ckt.com | |
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| Re: not quite said by Phil :I don't need a number to tell me FF is better than alternative browsers. Sure, 50 million sounds a bit unrealistic, but at the end of the day it's a great browser that can only get better. Aye, better than that, my mom is 72 and she loves it. I installed it last fall during one of the rounds of IE Phishing exploits that we are NOT talking about in this thread.

Microsoft screwed the pooch and the door got left open to the IE corral, now all the little doggies that stayed in the pen are whining and crying 'cause there are people smart enough to look elsewhere when they discover their browser is a POS ...
Whatever, I'd say that I've DL'd maybe thirty copies of FF myself. Probably four or five are dupes or reinstalls, the rest were legit installs on real systems for people who were sick of IE and willing to try something different. Not a single one of them has complained.
If Grandma likes it, it's probably ok. What I didn't tell you was Grandma was a keypunch operator on a Univac in the late 50's. Grandma is kinda picky about the quality of her software.
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| Re: not quite said by DaDogs :said by Phil :I don't need a number to tell me FF is better than alternative browsers. Sure, 50 million sounds a bit unrealistic, but at the end of the day it's a great browser that can only get better. Aye, better than that, my mom is 72 and she loves it. I installed it last fall during one of the rounds of IE Phishing exploits that we are NOT talking about in this thread.  Microsoft screwed the pooch and the door got left open to the IE corral, now all the little doggies that stayed in the pen are whining and crying 'cause there are people smart enough to look elsewhere when they discover their browser is a POS ... Whatever, I'd say that I've DL'd maybe thirty copies of FF myself. Probably four or five are dupes or reinstalls, the rest were legit installs on real systems for people who were sick of IE and willing to try something different. Not a single one of them has complained. If Grandma likes it, it's probably ok. What I didn't tell you was Grandma was a keypunch operator on a Univac in the late 50's. Grandma is kinda picky about the quality of her software. Well, my only gripe is that some websites are designed improperly so they don't work properly. For example, just last week a buddy of mine came over and he needed to access a real-state site and of course I told him to use FF after he searched, but could find no IE link/icon. It turns out FF doesn't display the fly out menus properly. I know it's not FFs fault, but how can I recommend something doesn't work some of the time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an avid FF fan. -- »www.ckt.com | |
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| Re: not quite It is funny how many web sites are written to display correctly in only one browser. Usually that browser is IE, even if IE is bugged and the code is written to take that bug into consideration.
I don't know enough about the correct rendering of HTML/XML/VRML to tell you which browser most closely sticks with the standards.
What I can tell you is that I have about same problems with IE and FF, but I feel that FF is more secure generally. So I run FF 98% of the time and I run IE when I have to run IE. Some sites just won't work with anything else, but they are usually sites that were built with Front Page. -- »www.freeantennas.com | |
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| Re: not quite said by DaDogs :It is funny how many web sites are written to display correctly in only one browser. Usually that browser is IE, even if IE is bugged and the code is written to take that bug into consideration. I don't know enough about the correct rendering of HTML/XML/VRML to tell you which browser most closely sticks with the standards. What I can tell you is that I have about same problems with IE and FF, but I feel that FF is more secure generally. So I run FF 98% of the time and I run IE when I have to run IE. Some sites just won't work with anything else, but they are usually sites that were built with Front Page. You know, it would be interesting to see a list of sites that only work properly in IE. I wonder if anyone has compiled such a list? -- »www.ckt.com | |
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