priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA
 ·voip.ms
·Callcentric
·Vonage
·callwithus
| Cisco Systems to Acquire Sipura
No big surprise .....
Cisco Systems® (Nasdaq:CSCO - News) today announced a definitive agreement to acquire privately-held Sipura Technology, Inc.
»newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2005/cor···=ILC-001 |
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DavidJWood
Premium
join:2001-10-12
UK | Indeed, no great surprise. If you read the linked article, it's really Linksys, which is a division of Cisco, acquiring Sipura.
David |
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da_guy
@mindspring.com | reply to priller
well, let's hope that they don't do with them what they did with komodo (the way of the dodo). |
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ugalosh
join:2002-12-07
Baltimore, MD
1 edit | reply to priller
Cisco is showing some great foresight, knowing that eventually every communication will be ip based. I wont be shocked if they get a hand in IPTV, fits well with voice/video. |
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priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA
·voip.ms
·Callcentric
·Vonage
·callwithus
| said by ugalosh  :Cisco is showing some great foresight, knowing that eventually every communication will be ip based. I wont be shocked if they get a hand in IPTV, fits well with voice/video. Cisco has been doing IPTV for a couple of years already...
Cisco IP Videoconferencing
»www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns340···age.html
Cisco IP/TV
»www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns340···age.html |
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana | reply to priller
I hope they don't ruin the devices we've fallen in love with. Sipura is quite simply my SIP ATA of choice, I hope it stays this way. |
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lifeform
join:2003-06-27
Santa Clara, CA
·Packet8
1 edit | Nothing like selling the same basic thing twice.
I think Cisco did this a lot it was called a 'spin in' or something like that. (basically farm out a team so that the team got startup valuations on the reacquisition). The cool thing is here is lighting struck *twice*. He was effectively spun in two times, Komodo then Sipura and always using the same chip and similar if not same microcode but obviously quite different firmware (there is a DSP(microcode) + RISC chip in the design). *Twice* from the same cashcow, amazing. |
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
| reply to priller
For those who don't know, Cisco bought Komodo Technologies in 2000, the maker of the then hugely popular ATA-186. Since Cisco purchased Komodo, they pretty much did nothing with the technology except let it age, very ungracefully, until the ATA-186 is no longer cutting edge technology as it was under Komodo Tech. What's interesting is that Sipura was founded by the same people who started Komodo Technologies so they are essentially being paid twice for doing the same thing: producing the most popular (at their time) SIP device on the market. Unless Cisco/Linksys has a better management team in place today (which I doubt), I'd expect the Sipura to die a slow, slow death with no more improvements or major revisions unless Sipura already has them in the pipeline. Remember the ATA-188? Cisco's attempt to improve on Komodo's already excellent ATA-186? The public never accepted it.
At least we can be assured that the founders of Komodo & Sipura are likely to start another company after a their anti-competition clause is ended in their purchase agreement and while it might have a new name, we'll still get cutting edge SIP technology. We'll just have to wait a while like we did from 2000 until Sipura reappeared about 1 year or 2 ago.
Where do you suppose they get these names? Komodo & Sipura. Wonder what the next company name they start will be? |
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lestat99
join:2000-08-04
Piscataway, NJ
1 edit | reply to priller
SIPURA is being placed in the Linksys division of Cisco which is functionally and financially separate from the larger Cisco. This should allow for the same level of time to market and cost that you see in Linksys devices. Linksys devices are very competitive feature-wise so I don't think that we will see the demise of the SIPURA.
The problem with Komodo is that it was absorbed into the larger Cisco which isn't used to developing low cost, commodity products like Linksys. This shouldn't repeat itself as SIPURA isn't reporting to the larger Cisco. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Grafton, WV
clubs: | No, they will just let Linksys run the sipura into the ground and become just as bad as the linksys products themselves..
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
| reply to lestat99
said by lestat99 :SIPURA is being placed in the Linksys division of Cisco which is functionally and financially separate from the larger Cisco. This should allow for the same level of time to market and cost that you see in Linksys devices. Good point. Now if Linksys doesn't fire/disband or otherwise piss off the hardware/firmware design teams that have made the Sipura so popular, there is a good chance that Sipura's may continue to be a leader in SIP technology.
A lot of P8's problems with it's now defunct DTA-310 is that they disbanded & laid off many of the people who designed it (both hardware & firmware wise). Once those people were gone, P8 was never able to improve on the DTA-310 with the inferior personnel that they had which has caused them many problems.
If Linksys can avoid the same issues regarding keeping key Sipura personnel, then I'd have a brighter outlook on the situation. |
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hoffa3
join:2000-04-18
Las Vegas, NV | reply to priller
That sucks that Cisco took over them. At least I got my Sipura device before Cisco got them.
I usually like to look for alternatives when companies buy out others. I don't like the idea of someone that thinks that they can buy customers. |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| reply to prestonlewis
said by prestonlewis :Now if Linksys doesn't fire/disband or otherwise piss off the hardware/firmware design teams that have made the Sipura so popular, there is a good chance that Sipura's may continue to be a leader in SIP technology. Linksys PAP-2 was based on Sipura technology. So, this marriage will benefit Linksys a lot. A lot of providers are using Linksys PAP-2 or Sipura ATAs so Linksys is instantly market leader.
The only think that worries me is the firmware support for out independely purchased Sipura products. I hope they continue to provide fixes/improvements to Sipura firmwares which is the most tweakable in the market. |
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clecrupt9
join:2002-01-22
GA
| reply to priller
Amazing- but I suspected this would happen.
The phone is the next thing Cisco needs, even the 7940g isnt up to speed on where we need to be. And even the new IP phones some people are hawking arent anything special. Lightning might strike three times if he can do it "right". |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
·voip.ms
 ·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | reply to priller
I appreciated Sipura as a smaller company, providing a TA device that fits my needs (the 2100). A great product for people like me that like to control things themselves, and not be at the mercy of the Vonages and Callvantages of this world.
Probably the Sipura people were given an offer they couldn't refuse. Cisco, the 500 pound gorrilla in the neighborhood, obviously has the money.
As mentioned, Cisco's Linksys AT/router line is totally tied to particular VOIP companies. I would hate to see them migrate the Sipura line into that, if not mess up Sipura's great product line altogether by neglecting it. It may not happen soon, but could. While Cisco and Sipura will put the best face on this, as it probably means more profits for them, I don't think the consumer will benefit from this. But only time will tell. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| said by burgerwars :I appreciated Sipura as a smaller company, providing a TA device that fits my needs (the 2100). A great product for people like me that like to control things themselves, and not be at the mercy of the Vonages and Callvantages of this world. Probably the Sipura people were given an offer they couldn't refuse. Cisco, the 500 pound gorrilla in the neighborhood, obviously has the money. As mentioned, Cisco's Linksys AT/router line is totally tied to particular VOIP companies. I would hate to see them migrate the Sipura line into that, if not mess up Sipura's great product line altogether by neglecting it. It may not happen soon, but could. While Cisco and Sipura will put the best face on this, as it probably means more profits for them, I don't think the consumer will benefit from this. But only time will tell. You can buy unlocked Linksys VoIP devices:
»www.voipsupply.com/product_info.···s_id=317
»www.voipsupply.com/product_info.···s_id=318
»www.voipsupply.com/product_info.···s_id=419
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
·Cox HSI
| SPECIAL NOTICE REGARDING THIS PRODUCT
This product is ONLY available to qualified service providers who sign an authorization agreement with Linksys and will NOT be sold to end-users. Please contact our sales department to discuss the purchase of this product. Call 1-800-398-VOIP to speak with a representative.
IF YOU ARE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER, DO NOT ORDER THIS PRODUCT AS YOUR ORDER WILL BE CANCELLED.
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»[Sipura] Make your Sipura Speak! - Step by Step
»[Monitoring] Samurize plugin for Alchemy
Drop me a PM if you'd like a custom Samurize plugin for your device. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null | reply to priller
Point being? Anyone can be a "service provider."
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hebeda
join:2004-08-02
Germany | the linksys voip adapter can be aquired unlocked in europe.
there are no restrictions. |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| said by hebeda :the linksys voip adapter can be aquired unlocked in europe. there are no restrictions. Can you point to downloadable firmware upgrades for the Linksys PAP2? Even if you can buy one unliked there is no support from Linksys to end users as far as I can see. |
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