  vonsen Just Because Premium join:2005-01-06
| reply to tlpintpe Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business:
said by tlpintpe :The "unlimite isn't really unlimited" is Voip's dirty-little secret This type of marketing practice is not unique to Voip. You see the same thing with ISPs, rental cars and other businesses where there is a fixed transactional cost. Don't blame Voip, blame the company that is duplicitous in it's marketing claims.
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 tlpintpe
join:2002-09-13 Spicewood, TX | You are right, it is not Voip in general, it is marketing by unscrupulous companies. But it can tar the innocent along with the guilty. |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| reply to vonsen said by vonsen :said by tlpintpe :The "unlimite isn't really unlimited" is Voip's dirty-little secret This type of marketing practice is not unique to Voip. You see the same thing with ISPs, rental cars and other businesses where there is a fixed transactional cost. Don't blame Voip, blame the company that is duplicitous in it's marketing claims. -- five stars shy So is it they way they do their dirty business?Am I gonna win if I bring this to the court? |
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  schnauze
join:2001-05-29 Sunnyvale, CA | See »www.businessweek.com/ap/financia···ech_down |
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 gatzdon
join:2002-10-25 Lake Zurich, IL
1 edit | I wish that article would not single out packet8, but rather summarize all the companies that abuse the word "unlimited". I think Cable Internet providers are another breed trying to redefine the word unlimited. As mentioned above, no one has challenged the innappropriate marketing use of the word "unlimited" and until then, they will continue to abuse it.
Also, OP needs to add a RocketVOIP review to get their message across better. |
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 dustenm
join:2004-06-11 Hanover, PA | reply to annex1982 Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business: overuse
It looks like there list of Unlimited countries is shrinking, thats the same thing voip2 did. |
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I belive they are voip2.... same business model.... too good to be true.... these companies needed to be stopped |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| reply to dustenm said by dustenm :It looks like there list of Unlimited countries is shrinking, thats the same thing voip2 did. Look...Now they don't have the UNLIMITED plan anymore to Jakarta Indonesia. This company sucksss. Do not ever ever sign up with them. The billing summary/billing detail sucks too. I'm very disappointed with them  |
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 dustenm
join:2004-06-11 Hanover, PA
| reply to annex1982 annex1982: You might want to contact »www.linefire.com they can create a custom calling plan for you to call to jakarta indonesia Unlimted. I have just contacted them and got a custom plan for callin to the Ukraine. Just tell them which countries you want to call and they can give you a price, they even can include mobile phones in an Unlimited price. |
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 qalam
join:2005-04-27 Urbana, IL
| I am with Broadvox Direct and run into the same problem. I talk to my wife alot, alot of times for over an hour a day. She is in canada and I thought this is perfect to get a voip connection instead of calling cards or pay long distance charges. [read my review for braodvox]
here is a summary:
After 3 months of usage, broadvox cancelled my account saying I abused it. I talked to the customer service rep, she said I would have to resign at 29.99 but first return my adaptor.
Then I talked to a higher manager, he just kept repeating the same thing over and over again. I threated to file a complain with the district attorney and FCC/FTC. He said they have lawyers, they are not worried. At one point, I said, look, you are a human being like me, can you tell me what you would do if your cell phone company told you that you have unlimited nights and weekends but then limited your minutes. He said, he can not be human while working for broadvox. haha.. wel he didnt put it in that way. But he said he can not give his personal opinion while working for broadvox. But finaly I threatened to destroy their name in every single forum on the web becuase I know exactly where they get their customers. Thats when he changed and he transfered me to a different CSR (comnpliance department he called it) where they reconnected me. Although they swore before that the computer has cancelled my service and there is nothing they could do.
I wish I had recieved a cancellation email from them that stated that I over used their UNLIMITED service but their cancellation email said "per your request, we are cancelling your service.." I never requested my service to be cancelled..... |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| said by qalam :I am with Broadvox Direct and run into the same problem. I talk to my wife alot, alot of times for over an hour a day. She is in canada and I thought this is perfect to get a voip connection instead of calling cards or pay long distance charges. [read my review for braodvox] here is a summary: After 3 months of usage, broadvox cancelled my account saying I abused it. I talked to the customer service rep, she said I would have to resign at 29.99 but first return my adaptor. Then I talked to a higher manager, he just kept repeating the same thing over and over again. I threated to file a complain with the district attorney and FCC/FTC. He said they have lawyers, they are not worried. At one point, I said, look, you are a human being like me, can you tell me what you would do if your cell phone company told you that you have unlimited nights and weekends but then limited your minutes. He said, he can not be human while working for broadvox. haha.. wel he didnt put it in that way. But he said he can not give his personal opinion while working for broadvox. But finaly I threatened to destroy their name in every single forum on the web becuase I know exactly where they get their customers. Thats when he changed and he transfered me to a different CSR (comnpliance department he called it) where they reconnected me. Although they swore before that the computer has cancelled my service and there is nothing they could do. I wish I had recieved a cancellation email from them that stated that I over used their UNLIMITED service but their cancellation email said "per your request, we are cancelling your service.." I never requested my service to be cancelled..... qalam: Make another new topic with the same title. Let people know that their service is really NOT unlimited. You'll get a lot of responses if you make a new thread. This also helps other people to think before they sign up with Broadvox.
Anyway I'd recommend you to switch to other company like sunrocket, Voicepulse. They have unlimited plan to canada too. Sunrocket doesn't cost you anything to start and you can terminate your service anytime without paying any extra charge. I think Voicepulse does the same. It should be easy for you to switch providers since most of them offer free calls to Canada. Anyway good luck with Broadvox  |
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 xaraye
join:2001-04-28 Lawrenceville, GA
| they did the same thing to me. i got email and i got call from tim and he told me i can't have the plan anymore this people should not be in business at all. they lying to customers also they not telling we allow 1200mins for whole month,what is cellphone now. when is says unlimited it should mean unlimited. as far iknow 1200min is not unlimited at all. i hope they burn in hell this guys, by the way i called my credit card company and i got my money from this blood suckers. i hope you all do that guys dont let them get away with your first month money. i know most of us didnt even finish the month when they cancel our service. |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| said by xaraye :they did the same thing to me. i got email and i got call from tim and he told me i can't have the plan anymore this people should not be in business at all. they lying to customers also they not telling we allow 1200mins for whole month,what is cellphone now. when is says unlimited it should mean unlimited. as far iknow 1200min is not unlimited at all. i hope they burn in hell this guys, by the way i called my credit card company and i got my money from this blood suckers. i hope you all do that guys dont let them get away with your first month money. i know most of us didnt even finish the month when they cancel our service. Report them to BBB and your state's AG. Tell them they their doing false advertisement |
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 dustenm
join:2004-06-11 Hanover, PA
| reply to annex1982 Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business: overuse
I just looked on there website and now there rates have changed. The old $24.95 unlimited plan is now $69.95 that is a big increase.
»www.rocketvoip.com/default.aspx?···iliate=0 |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business:
Unfortunately they don't have any UNLIMITED calls to jakarta, indonesia. I think I need to sign linefire ASAP:p |
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 dustenm
join:2004-06-11 Hanover, PA
| annex1982: yes, now that I have linefire I feel alot better as I can talk all I want and only pay 1 price. No, more worring about my phone bill.
I also have rocketvoip for my usa calls. I have only had them 1 weeks so far but did not have any problems with them yet. |
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 DavidJWood Premium join:2001-10-12 UK
| reply to dustenm Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business: overuse
There's still a $29.95 International Residential plan - I think the $69.95 plan is a business plan, but it's hardly clear.
David |
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 dustenm
join:2004-06-11 Hanover, PA | DavidJWood: No, the $29.95 international plan does not include alot of other countries as the $24.95 before did. If you go look at the $69.95 you can see it has the same countries and features that the old $24.95 one had. |
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 annex1982
join:2005-02-15 Cleveland, OH
| Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business:
said by dustenm :DavidJWood: No, the $29.95 international plan does not include alot of other countries as the $24.95 before did. If you go look at the $69.95 you can see it has the same countries and features that the old $24.95 one had. No matter what this company is a Crap. NOT RECOMMENDED. Their billing summary and call logs suck too. |
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 PILMAN
join:2002-11-23 Fort Walton Beach, FL
| reply to annex1982 Re: [Other] RocketVoIP switches plan to business: overuse
Unlimited doesn't exist, it's just a marketing term. They expect the "average" user won't use over a certain limit but there are extremes. I use Vonage, my mother used 4300 minutes last month but Vonage didn't say a thing. Had they said something I would have left them for sure. |
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