vonsen
Just Because
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Re: So you wanna try Voip?
said by jeffw_00  :who do you use (provider, adapter) that works for fax and tivo? Do you do a LOT of faxing? I have broadvox and lingo. Broadvox /mediatrix works for both. I am not a heavy fax user at home, but am faxing something at least several times a week. Lingo also works for faxing, but not tivo. The latter is probably because lingo is not offering a g711 codec at this time. These are just two examples - there are other providers that will work with fax/tivo too. If you have more tivo questions, start a new thread and we'll see if we can answer them.
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sean_welling
join:2005-02-25
New York, NY
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i'm not very voip conscious but would like to know if there is another company beyond the big ones that are good. my wife & i have tried vonage but it doesn't seem to agree with us and we're looking for something else...namely a service that has good international rates & service...any suggestions? |
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vonsen
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| Start a new thread in the main forum below + we'll help you out.
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Drex_CS
join:2005-05-11
canada
1 edit | reply to vonsen
Re: So you wanna try Voip?
I didn't read all the replies so i'm not sure if all this was covered. but there are some differences since that was posted.
1) VoIP's will now have to carry 911
2) Not all IP's use the same cable for thier VoIP and thier internet. Shaw cable for instance (Canada offer only) uses another set up for thier phone service. This means that your internet may be down (heck your Electricity could be down) and your phone will still work. The reason for this is because the "modem" will run on it's 10 hour lifespan batteries without electricity, and you'll still be able to access your phone.
3) You can use a local number from anywhere in the world, and have it run to your house (eg. get a Hong Kong based VoIP and you have a Hong kong number, but still have no long distance to call your neighbour)
4) Also the biggest thing i hear is that you cant get a "smart ring" with your phone if your on VoIP. This mainly applies to those who use Fax machines. there is actually a piece of hardware that is sold at Radio Shak that offers to differentiate between fax and tele communications and will ring differently for you. these will run you around $70-100 canadian or $50-60 american.
hope this adds to the help this thread will offer to the unknowledgeable! |
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rdv714
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Three points. First Speakeasy has now a VOIP service, but they have some serious shortcomings. First, regional 800 numbers are a real problem with them. Numbers for people that route there 800 numbers based upon location such as the FAA, IRS and many retailers get always routed to New York. Second, Speakeasy forces you to always dial 10 digits even if it is a local call. Vonage supports 7, 10 or 11 digit dialing. Third, Speakeasy is NOT nomatic. They force you to put their adapters outside of your firewall and only allow their use on Speakeasy public addresses. |
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ronard
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Re: So you wanna try Voip?- Nikkom.com
great job- I have Voip for about 4 month and I'm very pleased- WWW.NIKKOM.COM they have a great deal and goog service- I really recommend.:) |
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Insight Tech
join:2005-05-29
Kokomo, IN
1 edit | reply to vonsen
Re: So you wanna try Voip?
I can only say a couple things about "Voice over IP" and only about one of the largest providers out there. Here is how it really works without a nice diagram.
1-You pick up the phone it transmits a signal to the server stating it needs X amount of bandwidth to make the voice transmission.
2- The server replies with at the time whatever bandwidth it can squeeze out for that call.
3-Downfall of Vonage and most VOIP carriers is BANDWIDTH dedication or lack of. It may bounce the bandwidth one minute and decide not to the next because of traffic. They do not dedicate bandwidth for a fact they can not on there current set up.
3- We go back to the actual pick up of the phone the transmission signal travels back through multiple servers and networks to make a connection with hopefully an actual phone switching system if your lucky. Vonage noway it just grasp at any open net server to complete the loop. So you are in Texas the bounce of the transmission is most likely going to Chicago then to through 3-10 networks then where ever the end connection is destine say your brother just 5 blocks down the road from you. Two things you can count on with this type of service and it does not matter how good your actual ISP is either. Dropped calls and echoes over the line.
4-No 911 service available- True story family in Arizona a year or 2 ago finds their house is on fire. Not realizing that Vonage is non-911 compatable because of their open net service tries calling the fire dept dialing 911. She gets a message back stating this service is not available. Lucky for her a neighbor sees the fire and calls 911 on a regular phone service.
Telephonie service or cable phone. Born off the idea of VOIP but 100 times better telephonie service is available now through "Insight/Comcast" and a couple others. Advantage being they have their own backbone ISP servers. Meaning the call goes from your home to a local server via fiber lines within miles and then hits a regular phone switching box. Has all the nice freals of say SBC or Sprint but for less money and most times in a package deal. E-911 service ready and no dropped calls not to mention a perfectly clear phone line no echoes.
My advise to anyone that may think they could ever need 911 service and has Vonage re-think your service carrier.
Difference between standard 911 service and E911 service. Only one huge thing- E911 electronically sends your personal information to the 911 operator meaning if you are being robbed in the middle of the night and can not speak for fear of being heard you do not have to that operator will have your information within a tenth of a second from connection. Standard 911 service does not have this feature and Vonage has neither.
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caseydoug
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stevech1
join:2005-01-08
1 edit | reply to vonsen
I thought that some/most VoIP providers were sending the 9-1-1 center (via ANI) the address that the subscriber designated. Passing this address is E911 for wireline, is it not? The tricky part for the carrier is passing it to the correct answering point (PSAP), since there are so many inter-jurisdictional agreements, such as unincorporated city X contracts for police from County Y but fire from County Z. There are databases for all of this, indexed by address or zip code. |
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Subaru
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I'm new to Voip, but I have a question..
For Softphones do all Voip providers provide the adress you need to Connect to their server? I guess I said that right.
Right now I'm trying to find Pay as you go until I find one thats decent, Stanaphone is ok, but my voice drops out after 1 Min on the call, and I spent $5 for credits.
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vonsen
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| Have you looked at FWD? You can use a free softphone from X-Ten to make calls. Calls to other FWD users is free & nominal charges to reach pstn numbers. I think that they also have a 'welcome line' where you can test your service. FWD# 55555 rings a number of phones where someone will answer to test you service. BTW, you'll probably get more replies to posts in the main forum below.
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Subaru
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Well I want a number so others can reach me..
Is pay as you go also called FWD? |
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deliberate
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join:2002-10-25
1 edit | said by Subaru :Well I want a number so others can reach me. FWD stands for FreeWorldDialup »www.freeworlddialup.com -- which provides free FWD accounts.
If you get a FWD setup you can then get a *free* IPkall PSTN# (around the Seattle,WA area; »www.ipkall.com) to point at it and you can then get incoming PSTN calls to your FWD phone setup.
HTH,
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Subaru
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Greenwich, CT
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1 edit | reply to vonsen
I was really hoping I can get like a local number.. Or something with my aera code of 203.
And to be able to have sip address.. i.e. sip.softjoys.com |
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jdem1957
join:2003-01-25
Cypress, TX | reply to vonsen
I like the "idea" of viop but I believe it still needs time to grow up. IMO |
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Insight Tech
join:2005-05-29
Kokomo, IN | reply to caseydoug
Re: So you wanna try Voip?
Ok then go buy your Vonage and try dialing 911. Suggest next time you call someone a liar try it out and test the theory first this way you dont look like an ass when everyone that knows its true looks at your post. |
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