actor90
Never a dull moment
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join:2003-07-21
L.E.H.T., NJ
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| southern NJ now on CRAN
I lost my connection for a few minutes, when it returned I did a trace route to www.comcast.net. CRAN is in southern Ocean County, possibly all of South Jersey. Here are the results:
C:\Documents and Settings\>tracert www.comcast.net
Tracing route to www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 10 ms 9 ms 7 ms 68.86.221.13
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.210.49
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.22
5 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms 68.86.211.10
6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 12.118.114.17
7 13 ms 14 ms 15 ms tbr2-p012301.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.66]
8 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms gbr1-p80.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.122.12.106]
9 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms gar1-p360.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.21]
10 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms mdf1-g0.nyc3.attens.net [12.122.255.166]
11 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms sccsbix11-1-4.attbi.com [63.240.64.34]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 18 ms 16 ms 16 ms www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
Trace complete.
From what I was told about CRAN, this looks like it.
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mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
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| You might be on the CRAN since you have a few internal hops. The thing is that you only have a few internal hops. I have 10 hops on the Comcast network before I leave it.
Tracing route to www.comcast.net [204.127.195.15]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.220.105
3 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 68.86.209.230
4 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.234
5 12 ms 16 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.238
6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.242
7 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.246
8 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.250
9 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.209.254
10 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms 68.86.208.5
11 12 ms 11 ms 14 ms 68.86.211.2
12 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 12.118.149.9
13 13 ms 14 ms 15 ms tbr1-p010501.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.10]
14 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms tbr1-cl1.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.10.2]
15 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms tbr2-cl2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.9.134]
16 40 ms 38 ms 42 ms tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.46]
17 83 ms 100 ms 81 ms tbr2-cl2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.14]
18 82 ms 81 ms 81 ms gar4-p390.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.28.206]
19 85 ms 87 ms 84 ms idf26-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.rwc1.attens.net [12.122.25
5.142]
20 85 ms 86 ms 86 ms rwcsbix12-1-6.attbi.com [63.241.85.250]
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 82 ms 83 ms 83 ms www.comcast.net [204.127.195.15]
Now you might be closer to the "exit hop" than I am which would explain it, but it seems odd that you have such few hops before you exit the Comcast network.
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actor90
Never a dull moment
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join:2003-07-21
L.E.H.T., NJ
·Comcast
| reply to actor90
Perhaps someone who works for Comcast can tell by looking at it, one way or the other? I tend to think it is for a few reasons. The most important, before tonight all my trace routes had named addresses, ie. comcast.core etc. The hops always began with 68.87 now it is 68.86. Also, this could be coincidence, but my connection got faster, I can literally hit 6600kbps on some speed tests now, the cap on my gold tier service. The only doubt I have is what you brought up Mbernste, that it only has added one extra hop inside the comcast network as compared to my old trace routes.
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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1 edit | Actor-
You are right on - the 68.86.xx.xx is the key.
There were more South Jersey CMTS's migrated overnight - you are on 1 of them. 
Just as with the other routing platform, some areas will see more internal hops than others. You have 4, I have 6, Mbernste has 10.
Based on what i've heard about it, the system is so 1st class the extra hops should be seamless - Glad you like it! |
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mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
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| said by JeepMatt  :You have 4, I have 6, Mbernste has 10. Yeah, lucky me.
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sgossard34
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join:2004-08-26
Philadelphia, PA | reply to JeepMatt
do you know when PA areas will start to go to CRAN. for example reading PA area  |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to actor90
Looks like I got it too. I have more hops now, but my line test looks better than it has in the past.
»/quality/nil/1690519
So this doesn't really affect cablemodems (which need to go out to the Internet), it is more for OnDemand and VOIP services correct?
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Wilmington, DE | Gossard-
Reading should be in the next few weeks - they are doing a handful per week.
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mbernste
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Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
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| reply to Morac
said by Morac :So this doesn't really affect cablemodems (which need to go out to the Internet), it is more for OnDemand and VOIP services correct? Its actually for everything. The new network is more robust and allows greater capacity for all traffic.
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Epyon9283
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join:2001-12-26
Dayton, NJ
| reply to actor90
tom@raptor ~ $ traceroute -I www.comcast.net
traceroute: Warning: www.comcast.net has multiple addresses; using 204.127.195.15
traceroute to www.comcast.net (204.127.195.15), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.10.1 (192.168.10.1) 0.276 ms 0.369 ms 0.195 ms
2 * * *
3 68.86.220.81 (68.86.220.81) 11.813 ms 10.277 ms 9.033 ms
4 68.86.209.222 (68.86.209.222) 10.190 ms 9.301 ms 11.151 ms
5 68.86.209.226 (68.86.209.226) 10.909 ms 10.721 ms 28.038 ms
6 68.86.209.230 (68.86.209.230) 12.560 ms 11.245 ms 11.212 ms
7 68.86.209.234 (68.86.209.234) 10.152 ms 14.885 ms 11.493 ms
8 68.86.209.238 (68.86.209.238) 13.360 ms 10.841 ms 9.561 ms
9 68.86.209.242 (68.86.209.242) 10.270 ms 13.058 ms 14.176 ms
10 68.86.209.246 (68.86.209.246) 10.851 ms 12.310 ms 11.554 ms
11 68.86.209.250 (68.86.209.250) 10.314 ms 12.185 ms 12.321 ms
12 68.86.209.254 (68.86.209.254) 11.797 ms 14.477 ms 11.785 ms
13 68.86.208.5 (68.86.208.5) 18.031 ms 12.737 ms 14.501 ms
14 68.86.211.2 (68.86.211.2) 15.301 ms 18.306 ms 16.325 ms
15 12.118.149.17 (12.118.149.17) 15.565 ms 19.053 ms 20.381 ms
16 tbr1-p010501.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.3.10) 16.168 ms 17.459 ms 16.349 ms
17 tbr1-cl1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.2) 37.038 ms 37.482 ms 35.767 ms
18 tbr1-cl1.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.10.6) 93.503 ms 84.673 ms 80.686 ms
19 tbr2-p012501.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.9.138) 80.356 ms 80.842 ms 79.005 ms
20 tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.10.26) 87.745 ms 89.056 ms 88.746 ms
21 gar4-p300.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.28.202) 87.753 ms 87.015 ms 86.071 ms
22 idf26-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.rwc1.attens.net (12.122.255.142) 93.900 ms 94.500 ms 93.766 m s
23 63.241.85.102 (63.241.85.102) 97.951 ms 94.898 ms 93.700 ms
24 * * *
25 www.comcast.net (204.127.195.15) 99.270 ms 95.912 ms 96.216 ms
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to mbernste
said by mbernste :Its actually for everything. The new network is more robust and allows greater capacity for all traffic. I get that, but in pratcice how much does it really affect the modem service which currently is limitted to speeds of 6mbps or less. Will it make increasing speeds easier or allow more modems per node?
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mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
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| said by Morac : but in pratcice how much does it really affect the modem service which currently is limitted to speeds of 6mbps or less. Ah, but you think this is the last round of speed upgrades, huh? 
That's all I can say.
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dpierce
Lazyrabbitt
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join:2002-09-30
Cream Ridge, NJ
| reply to actor90
Mine:
C:\>tracert www.comcast.net
Tracing route to www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 168 ms 87 ms 87 ms 10.81.228.1
3 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms 68.86.223.109
4 11 ms 9 ms 7 ms 68.86.210.193
5 11 ms 7 ms 12 ms 68.86.210.198
6 19 ms 90 ms 87 ms 68.86.210.202
7 8 ms 9 ms 11 ms 68.86.210.206
8 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.210.210
9 33 ms 10 ms 15 ms 68.86.210.214
10 9 ms 19 ms 8 ms 68.86.210.178
11 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 68.86.211.10
12 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 12.118.114.13
13 33 ms 16 ms 84 ms tbr1-p012301.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.62]
14 12 ms 11 ms 24 ms gbr2-p10.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.122.12.102]
15 12 ms 11 ms 14 ms gar1-p370.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.25]
16 55 ms 14 ms 19 ms mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net [12.122.255.166]
17 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms mdf2-bi8k-2-ve-25.nyc3.attens.net [63.240.64.98]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 14 ms 15 ms 68 ms www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
Trace complete.
Yea you win epyon, like usual. Because comcast loves you
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FlsRend
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join:2004-01-31
Philadelphia, PA
·Comcast
| reply to actor90
Hmm, I'm trying to figure out what my problems are...horrible connections last two days. Not in NJ tho, but I have all those extra hops. What is CRAN?
C:\>tracert www.comcast.net
Tracing route to www.comcast.net [63.240.76.72]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.218.229
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.93
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.89
6 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.85
7 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.81
8 8 ms 10 ms 10 ms 68.86.208.77
9 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.73
10 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.69
11 10 ms 12 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.65
12 10 ms 14 ms 28 ms 68.86.208.61
13 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.57
14 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.53
15 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.49
16 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.29
17 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 68.86.211.14
18 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 12.119.53.53
19 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-6-0.nyc3.attens.net [12.122.255
.126]
20 19 ms 16 ms 19 ms sccsbix11-1-4.attbi.com [63.240.64.34]
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms www.comcast.net [63.240.76.72]
Trace complete.
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mbernste
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Piscataway, NJ
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1 edit | said by FlsRend :What is CRAN? First of all, you are on the CRAN. Secondly, »Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »What is CRAN? Thirdly, »/faq/8563
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FlsRend
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join:2004-01-31
Philadelphia, PA
·Comcast
2 edits | Sorry about that...
Comcast is just driving me nuts lately. Call and they give you the usuall line that nothing is wrong on thier end.
The last few days, I assume after the switch to CRAN, my connection has been shaky. Just for simple browsing, clicking a link will just sit there and give me a timeout error about 50% of the time.
I have run 3 line quality tests. The first one looks half decent. The second is horrible and the third is poor. In the third test, I made myself pingable.
»/quality/nil/1690917
»/quality/nil/1691066
»/quality/nil/1691156
Tweak test: »ttester.broadbandreports.com/twe···a=normal
And today's trace to comcast...
C:\>tracert www.comcast.net
Tracing route to www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * 535 ms 8 ms 68.86.218.229
4 8 ms 11 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.93
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * 8 ms 68.86.208.85
7 2102 ms 10 ms 25 ms 68.86.208.81
8 10 ms 9 ms 31 ms 68.86.208.77
9 * 117 ms 11 ms 68.86.208.73
10 13 ms 11 ms 9 ms 68.86.208.69
11 11 ms * * 68.86.208.65
12 14 ms 11 ms 14 ms 68.86.208.61
13 33 ms 11 ms 14 ms 68.86.208.57
14 10 ms 12 ms 13 ms 68.86.208.53
15 * 1154 ms 12 ms 68.86.208.49
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * 188 ms 82 ms 68.86.211.14
18 35 ms 17 ms 12 ms 12.118.114.9
19 18 ms 18 ms 14 ms tbr2-p012301.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.66]
20 15 ms 34 ms 14 ms gbr1-p80.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.122.12.106]
21 46 ms * 15 ms gar1-p360.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.21]
22 17 ms 17 ms 15 ms mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net [12.122.255
.166]
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 16 ms 38 ms 17 ms www.comcast.net [204.127.205.8]
Trace complete.
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sgossard34
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join:2004-08-26
Philadelphia, PA | i noticed the same thing here at work once lansdale moved over. it was going on for about a week or 2 then settled in. we are fine here now for few weeks. GL. |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | FLS-
You're seeing some nice packet loss there on your trace.
Get a tech out ASAP to check the lines.
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mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
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| reply to FlsRend
You shouldn't be getting those dropouts within Comcast's network. Ask anyone who is on the CRAN (like myself and JeepMatt ) and you will know that they haven't seen those issues.
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Blam
Penguin Power
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join:2002-02-06
Philadelphia, PA
| said by mbernste :You shouldn't be getting those dropouts within Comcast's network. Ask anyone who is on the CRAN (like myself and JeepMatt ) and you will know that they haven't seen those issues. I found that they put my area on CRAN sometime last week. However every friggin' time they work on switching an area over, I lose internet access totally (like now). Then it will mysteriously come back on its own.  Meanwhile, thank goodness for Verizon DSL as a backup.  |
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