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ssj4android
Redefining Reality

join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI
reply to bmn
Re: I love this quote...

I'll stick with Chronix. Good music, and free.

bmn
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join:2001-03-15
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reply to Steve
said by Steve See Profile:

They won't for long if nobody pays: I pay.
Good choice in music...
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Karl Bode
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reply to Jason Levine
Considering the Darwinian bloodshed that's going to occur as 8 million VoIP providers try to flood the market over the next three years, I really don't think incumbent providers (in this case Bell Canada in concert with Clearwire) have much to worry about.

They (MSO's, bells) own the government, and the government will ensure they dominate smaller independent carriers. Users will get VoIP from the same company they're getting TV/broadband from, anyway - which thanks to government will be the incumbents. There won't be a need to block competing services.


Jason Levine
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reply to Steve
This just in: The phone company has realized they aren't sharing in the wealth produced by calls to the Home Shopping Network. Therefore, Verizon is now blocking all calls to HSN. Luckily, you can still call the Verizon Shopping Network to buy similar items at a similar price.

All joking aside, I think the only reason that the ISPs are targeting VoIP is that they want to leave open the possibility of rolling out their own VoIP solution and don't want any pesky competition should they decide to do so.
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xrobertcmx
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join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
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reply to Steve
3 month Gold subscriber myself.


Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA

reply to xrobertcmx
said by xrobertcmx See Profile:

DI still offers free service...
They won't for long if nobody pays: I pay.
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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to Steve
Your reasoning is correct...

If they are upset about this then they can apply this same stupid logic to anything that requires a fee over the internet.

They can demand %'s of Ad income, order profits, monthly subscription fees, or even 1 time subscription fees to anything and everything that charges one on the internet.

Which simply shows the flaw in these greedy bastards logic.

xrobertcmx
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join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
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reply to Steve
Re: I love this quote...

DI still offers free service...I don't use them, but I know they are there.
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou
reply to Steve
It's not any different...not even in the most hair-splitting way.
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA

reply to Karl Bode
And I loved this quote:
said by the article:

Consumer VOIP providers such as Vonage make money by delivering their service over the last-mile networks of ISPs. ISPs do not share in that wealth.
How is VOIP different from any other kind of pay service, such as streaming DI.FM music (monthly subscription), a porno site (monthly subscription), or online gaming (monthly subscription). In none of these cases does the ISP get a cut of anything other than what they charge for the circuit (monthly subscription).

This seems like really unprincipled reasoning to me.

Steve
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