oliphant
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Re: Yeah...
That would require him to be intellectually honest for once.
Not gonna happen.
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N3OGH
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"Redneck", as defined by Dictionary.com is:
"Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States."
Racism, as defined by dictionary.com is:
"The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others"
When you use the term redneck as you do, you are implying that people, who are part of the "white,rural laboring class" are somehow inferior to yourself because of their inclusion in that group. It fits the definition to a tee. You may not like it, but it sure sounds like you believe you are somehow better than the folks you call "rednecks", making you at least SOUND racist.
As far as white rural working class folks being oppressed, nowhere did I see in the definition of racism the word oppression. Someone can be a racist without oppressing any given race or group.
Someone doesn't have to be a member of a "minority" group to be the victim of racism. Conversely, just because someone is a member of a "minority" group, does not make them the automatic victim of racism.
As far as being politically correct, who the hell are you to determine who deserves to be treated with dignity and respect? You say "God bless everyone" in your post, while you essentially say everyone who fits within the definition of a "redneck" deserves to be cast aside, as though their opinions count for not.
You, sir, with all due respect, are one of the most bigoted sounding people I've ever encountered in any discussions here. I hope you can find a place in the world for us rural working class white folks. I never oppressed anyone, and am a second generation immigrant. I'm the first person in my family to ever graduate from college. But you judge me not by the content of my character, but by the fact that I'm White, rural and working class.
Tell me that's not racism..... |
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AthlGrond
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said by kapil  :Do you even know where and how the term redneck originated? Strangely I suspect you might actually know this. (Unlike your inability to come up with a good reason to change from ICANN to the ITU/UN.)
Unfortunately this isn't something I care to know.
Better luck next time though.
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AthlGrond
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I think I can safely stop waiting for a reason why ICANN would be better replaced by ITU/UN at this point, since it's clear you're unaware of any.
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Geez, when it comes to defending Bush's actions on Iraq ("to liberate the people") you come off like a flaming liberal. |
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oliphant
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With all the displeasure some anti-American Communist bedwetters seem to have, you would think they would simply STFU and move to France.
Meanwhile I love that they lost the elections not just the Presidency but even more seats in the House and Senate...something not done in decades. And I love that they've got their panties in a bunch about it so much that they'll resort to calling anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi or redneck. I love that FNC has higher ratings than all of their leftist propagandizing competitors put together and that Air America and NPR can't pull a ratings point. I love that the UN is irrelevant. I love that old Europe is irrelevant. It's great.
All these jokers turned a blind eye to the 100,000's murdered by Saddam, the pre-teen rape rooms and the like, but get in a twist over little more than fraternity pranks at a prison full of murders and rapists. These nations that continuously bitch about the United States are always the first in line for a handout or expect the United States to foot the bill.
Well the next time countries in Africa are ravaged by HIV/AIDS we should keep our $15 billion taypayer dollars and give them the finger. The next time Muslims are getting slaughtered in some dumpster republic like Kosovo while the UN sits on their hands I hope we think better and let Europe handle their own problems. When South Korea gets nervous because Clinton took the word of a Communist dicator who "promised" not to develop nukes while he gave them the means to do it...they should think twice about marching in the streets bitching about America which is the only thing between them and the horrors of Communism. When the anti-American gov'ts of S.E. Asia piss and moan about the U.S. military delivering aid to areas devistated by the Tsunami I say fine...why bother. Let them handle their own messes. Don't beg for a billion in handouts then bitch about how you're getting it. And as for Europe, perhaps France would have been better off under Nazi control (since their per capita production went up) or Western Europe under the thumb of Stalinist Russia. These these socialist kooks could have their dreams of free heathcare, anti-semitism and deathsquads. When Mexicans can chant anti-American rhetoric and "Osama, Osama" at a soccer game and nothing is said, we ought to give consideration to doing what Mexico does to illegals in their country...deporting the 10 million illegal aliens who are sucking billions from our economy, keeping wages of legal immigrants low, ruining our schools and closing our hospitals.
All of these anti-semetic anti-American gov'ts in the UN can all KMA. For the first time in a while the United States is finally doing what every other country has done for themselves...and that's looking out for their best interests. If they don't like that America does what is in their best interests...tough. I have a hard time taking anyone who sides with gov'ts who would overlook pre-teen rape rooms and mass executions of 100,000's of innocents simply for oil money. France, Germany and Russia took the side of the terrorist enemies of the United States and for what...a few billion in stolen oil money. And who made it possible for billions to be funnelled from starving Iraqi children and into the hands of Saddam and European cronies...the UN.
If the UN and Eurotrash gov't are pissed because we won't bend over for them and give some socialist hack court jurisdiction over our citizens...tough. If they're all pissed because we won't bend over and decimate our economy with they joke of Kyoto while other nations like those in Central America and even China get off scott free, F-them.
I'll start considering the opinions of Europeans and the socialist whiners supporting them when they for once in their lives consider the concerns of the United States.
So excuse me all to hell if I don't want some worthless inept international body taking control over what the United States spent taxpayer dollars to develop. If they don't like it...they can build their own.
Self-loathing anti-American tree hugging commie bedwetters need not reply as their worthless opinions will be ignored.
But remember, I voted for the ITU takeover before I voted against it. 
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kapil
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Do you even know where and how the term redneck originated? |
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kapil
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So the rest of the world is out to get us? You're telling me that the standard estalished by the ICJ that is good enough for every other soldier in the world is not good enough for Chucky Graner? We don't want Abu-Ghraib style antics by our soldiers to warrant punishment...and that is why we didn't ratify the ICJ.
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kapil
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If there is one nation that is guilty of using the U.N. to meet its own domestic political ends, it's the U.S. We think the UN is there to serve us...we don't treat it as an international forum where the world cimmunity gathers to share ideas, resolve disputes and make a better tomorrow.
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kapil
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Calling a redneck a redneck isn't racism. Besides "redneck" isn't a race. And please tell me how the "rural whites" have been wronged oh so gravely by racist attitudes that we must now be politically correct about addressing inbred fools who will have you believe that there is only one country on this planet and it can do no wrong. Tell me why "God Bless America"...why the hell not "God Bless Everyone"? |
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kapil
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You need a reason, do you? How's this.
How about making a statement to the entire world that regardless of all the bad press we get because of the village idiot from Texas and his posse, we are a fair minded people. And we as a people value cooperation, global thinking, a multilateral and pluralistic approach to solving the world's problems and that we are capable of thinking about what is in the best interests of humanity not just Americans.
How about making a statement, however symbolic, that the one remaining superpower hasn't given up on those less fortunate than us...and that today we share with the rest of the world the awesome responsibility of managing a tool, a technology that has caused a paradigm shift in the way people talk to each other, the way we reach out and touch one another, the way we learn, gather information, get news about our greatest victories and our most tragic tragedies. And because we're so open minded about sharing our greatest gift to humanity - the internet - there is hope yet and perhaps that we, all of us together, can also overcome other petty problems of humanity like the AIDS crisis, poverty, hungry children, illiteracy and disease.
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said by AthlGrond :said by Nerdtalker :Seriously, why is everyone so eager to pass the buck to an agency as incompetent and corrupt as the UN? It's only certain countries, primarily those who would like to hobble the US economy. Yeah like the French government, Who thinks they are a super power.  The French have been at odds with US since the End of WWI and for their greedy stupidity They had to be rescued and for some they aren't too great full. Others there are great full that They were liberated of course. The French Government is an Ally in name only as they withdrew from the Military part of NATO back in the 50's or 60's, They are however part of the Political part though for all the good that does, But then It shows that the French can't be counted on in an emergency.
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N3OGH
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Neither are Ni**ER's" or Wops, or Spics, I could go on.
Everyone knows what the word "redneck" refers to. Rural white folk...
Of course, rural white folk are an easy target. No one is up in arms over the bashing of some "inbred, uneducated hicks". Then again, say something negative about some "minority" group, and you're on par with Hitler.
Rednecks are white folk, and you know it.... |
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AthlGrond
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The silence is all the reply anyone here needs. There isn't a single compelling reason to move from ICANN to the ITU/UN.
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AthlGrond
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And technically their necks aren't red. So what?
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said by Tsume :I think ICANN does a fine job the way it is, and there's no purpose for moving it to the ITU. There certainly hasn't been one put forth in this thread anyway. (Despite plenty of opportunity to provide even just one reason.)
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said by N3OGH :Oh, so now all the white rednecks are inbred. How disgustingly racist you sound... Technically, rednecks aren't a race.
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well I think better the UN than Verizon...aka the private interests that really run our country.
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Kapil didn't say that, type your comments outside of the quote please.
Perhaps it is just ME, but it is my opinion that almost every other country willing to use things like the world court or the ICJ as political tools against us are jealous of the US and have no solid reason for the actions they would (have) take.
The US doesn't join those because there's nothing preventing people from inappropriately using those against us.
I think ICANN does a fine job the way it is, and there's no purpose for moving it to the ITU. |
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Damon85
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I think it's time for somebody to go live in Europe if they don't like the U.S. so much...
I don't like Bush either, but I think there's a limit you passed up about three feet back throwing useless insults around. |
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