oliphant
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We really need the internet managed like they did the oil for food program and their operations in the Congo.
No thanks.
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| said by oliphant  :We really need the internet managed like they did the oil for food program and their operations in the Congo. Seriously, why is everyone so eager to pass the buck to an agency as incompetent and corrupt as the UN?
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We should make a deal that if the UN is not involved in any graft, corruption, rape, and does not overlook human rights abuses for 20 years than we MAY consider talking with them about the possibility that one day they could get involved with ICAAN. |
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Yeah, next thing ya know, Kojo Annan is spamming you with links to "Hot African refugee on UN aid worker" sex.
I read that some of the "aid" workers in the Congo were paying 11 year old girls for sex with food, since the girl's family is starving, they'll do anything.
How despicable. The last thing we need is this pit of 2 bit tin pot dictators running anything. |
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oliphant
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| LOL, yeah..."Hot UN Peacekeeper action"...with the recent flood accusations of sexual attrocities perpetrated by UN Peacekeepers in the Congo they have tons of adult material.
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said by Nerdtalker :Seriously, why is everyone so eager to pass the buck to an agency as incompetent and corrupt as the UN? It's only certain countries, primarily those who would like to hobble the US economy.
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"The international community wants to shift control of the Internet from U.S. based ICANN to the United Nations."
Who cares what the international community wants, and screw the United Nations.
What will the they want next, to shift control of the U.S. to the UN? |
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said by Nerdtalker :Seriously, why is everyone so eager to pass the buck to an agency as incompetent and corrupt as the UN?
While I agree 100% that the UN has become a corrupt, useless organization, it should be noted that the ITU predates the U.N. by almost a century (see » www.itu.int/aboutitu/overview/history.html ). While it is part of the UN now, it was an independent entity and continues to do a pretty good job regulating radio as well as international calling. Granted we need another bureaucracy looking over the internet like we need a packet storm but seeing where things are headed with ICANN I can't help but wonder if a change might be good. It should also be noted that the Universal Postal Union is another one of those UN agencies that predates the UN (see » www.upu.int/about_us/en/glance.html - found in 1874). They too do a pretty good job and I have yet to hear any complaints about international mail. --
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| said by n2jtx :Granted we need another bureaucracy looking over the internet like we need a packet storm but seeing where things are headed with ICANN I can't help but wonder if a change might be good. My complaints about international mail can wait, will you explain what you see wrong with ICANN that the UN would be a fix for?
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kapil
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The Security Council is not the same as the ITU. |
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kapil
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ICANN is incompetent. |
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| said by kapil :ICANN is incompetent. And the UN isn't?
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| No. The UN does a fair amount of good. You are confusing the UN with the Security Council. The SC is just one of the UN bodies. The proposal is to let the ITU manage the Internet. The ITU is another UN body but it predates the UN and does a fantastic job of managing the telecom interconnections and standards between nations. Without the ITU you'd be limited to calling NANPA member countries with your telephone.
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UN does not have its own military...soldiers are borrowed from member nations. There are good apples and bad ones in every group. We don't contribute to US peacekeeping missions...yet our soldiers manage to misbehave anyway. Or did you forget Abu Ghraib?
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I won't stipulate that a big long standing bureaucracy is better without some convincing.
So, what aspect of managing the internet would the ITU do better than ICANN? And what would it do worse? (In your opinion.)
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| If you knew the history of ICANN and the history of the ITU, you wouldn't ask me that question.
The management of ITU is infintely better than that of ICANN. I won't do your work for you...go do some googling and come back with why you think the ITU ISN'T a better choice and I will do my best to convince you otherwise.
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said by kapil :...yet our soldiers manage to misbehave anyway. Or did you forget Abu Ghraib? The primary difference is that we will put our troops on trial and punish the guilty ones.
Who is it that will protect people from rogue UN peace keepers? No one in the UN it would appear.
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| Actually, in the recent incident, to which apparently Oliphant is referring to, the home nation of the offending soldiers DID recall the soldiders in question and court martial them.
Then there's the U.S.....which won't join the ICJ because we don't want our soldiers to be held to the standards that the rest of the world has agreed to.
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said by kapil :If you knew the history of ICANN and the history of the ITU, you wouldn't ask me that question. The management of ITU is infintely better than that of ICANN. I won't do your work for you...go do some googling and come back with why you think the ITU ISN'T a better choice and I will do my best to convince you otherwise. Too bad, in the absence of a stated reason I'll have to assume you don't have real one.
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kapil
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That would be better than shifting control of the U.S. to the inbred rednecks that seem to have taken over.
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