BIG b
Premium
join:2002-11-23
Connersville, IN | reply to Fisamo
Re: Porting Rules
I ported my number to VOIP with DSL active on my line.
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ozamora
join:2004-06-07
Boca Raton, FL
 ·Joi Phone
| reply to lowspeed
said by lowspeed  :I just signed with SunRocket... Irequest to port from Packet8... Is it a lost cause and it will never happen cause P8 owns the number ? Packet just transfered my number to Sunrocket. It took 2 months |
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lowspeed
join:2004-01-05
Marathon, NY | reply to prestonlewis
I just signed with SunRocket... Irequest to port from Packet8... Is it a lost cause and it will never happen cause P8 owns the number ? |
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
| reply to prestonlewis
If anyone can help, that would be great. Sprint is a CLEC, correct? (yes, I know it is)
Sprint has changed a lot in recent years. At first Sprint was the internal communication part of Southern Pacific Railroad (the SP in Sprint), then it was a long distance carrier only, then it was purchased by a large independent telco who took their name. Then, the new Sprint began buying small telcos to create a local presence, like United Telephone of the Carolinas for example. It's now Sprint local, but is still registered as UTS (United Telephone System in my home state of SC). So Sprint can be a cell, an ILEC, a CLEC or other names depending on who they've bought in your area.
Why does porting a landline number take so much longer than porting a cell phone number? Because the telcos are no in hurry to do it. They'll port it back in 3 days but my telco line to Vonage (XO CLEC) took 6 weeks). Long delays is usually the local telco's fault, not your VOIP providers fault.
If i port my Verizon line to let's say Voicepulse, who owns the number now? me or VP? The number will always be "owned" by the telco the number was issued to which would be Verizon. However, you "control" the number as long as you keep your bills paid and it's not disconnected so you can port it elsewhere if you want. And no, it would not be VP who is not a telco is any way. For my SBC line which I ported to Vonage, the port actually went to XO Communications which is the local CLEC Vonage uses in my city. Ported numbers can go to an ILEC, an RBOC, or a CLEC or something but not a VOIP provider unless the VOIP provider is an actual phone company which most aren't. |
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usa2k
Please PRAY for Rebekah
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
clubs:
·VOIPo
 ·WOW Internet and C..
·Broadvox Direct
| reply to klapper2001
I would venture to say Focal, or level3, or who-ever really owned the switch/number originally still owns the number - even if it were a pots line. The rest is just an agreement about who is entitled to make use of it. Your provider pays for that privilege to have the switch direct the connection.
(OK - now roamer1 's more professional answer?  )
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klapper2001
join:2004-09-16
Los Angeles, CA
| reply to prestonlewis
If i port my Verizon line to let's say Voicepulse, who owns the number now? me or VP? I'm assuming it's still me. So if ever VP doesn't perform to my expection, i should be able to move to a different provider and take my Verizon ported number with me, correct? |
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nba30
join:2004-07-07
Rockford, IL
clubs:
·Comcast
·Callcentric
| reply to prestonlewis
Why does porting a landline number take so much longer than porting a cell phone number?
I had US Cellular and switched to Verizon Wireless and the porting process took only a few HOURS (even though they told me it might be a few days.)
When switching from SBC (Ameritech) to Packet8, it took over a month. Why are these two systems so different? |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
·VOIPo
| reply to prestonlewis
said by prestonlewis :Let's move on to numbers you can port: 3. If you do have a phone number in your name from an ILEC, RBOC, or cell provider, you can port it to your VOIP provider who really ports it to their CLEC in your area. Remember, VOIP companies are not telephone companies, CLEC's are so your port is really to a CLEC, not the VOIP company. Incoming calls after porting will go to the CLEC's equipment, not your VOIP providers equipment. In regards to cell numbers, do not get your hopes too high, espicially if you want a BYOD plan. I currently have an AT&T Wireless number that I ported to Broadvox Direct. I have yet to find another carrier that I can port this number to. My goal is to get it straight into Asterisk and not have to use a SIP device.
So there are not very many VoIP companies that can even port a cell number.
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Mutiny32
Network Security Engineer
join:2000-07-04
Lees Summit, MO | reply to gnexus
I'm not sure. So who do I call? |
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gnexus
join:2005-06-24
| reply to Mutiny32
said by Mutiny32 :Alright, I can't get a clear reason why I can't port my number. I tried to sign up for ATT CV because they said they can port my home phone #. Well, after I signed up, they emailed me back and said that they couldn't port the number. They could give no clear reason. So I called Sprint, my local carrier, and they told me about something I needed to send them, but it made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I cannot figure it out. Nobody has a clear reason why it can't be done. The number is 816-578-xxxx If anyone can help, that would be great. Sprint is a CLEC, correct? (yes, I know it is) Sprint is an ILEC in Missouri. Not a CLEC.
VoIP companies associated with Level3 as a CLEC can port their numbers in 816 area code.
Examples of towns follow:
Belton
Blue Spg
E Atchison
Excelsrspg
Grain Vly
Kansas City
Lees Summit
Liberty
Oak Grove
St. Joseph
Go to the following web site and look for a VoIP provider:
»voxilla.com/compare/compare.php?···ode=type
Then call or email them and ask if they use Level3 as a CLEC.
Then port your number. You will likely have no problem.
Got it? |
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andunn
join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO | reply to Mutiny32
Nobody can give me a clear reason as to why my number can't be ported either. The Vonage website says I can even keep my exisitng phone number, but I received an email today saying they couldn't. |
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Mutiny32
Network Security Engineer
join:2000-07-04
Lees Summit, MO
| reply to prestonlewis
Alright, I can't get a clear reason why I can't port my number. I tried to sign up for ATT CV because they said they can port my home phone #. Well, after I signed up, they emailed me back and said that they couldn't port the number. They could give no clear reason. So I called Sprint, my local carrier, and they told me about something I needed to send them, but it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I cannot figure it out. Nobody has a clear reason why it can't be done. The number is 816-578-xxxx
If anyone can help, that would be great. Sprint is a CLEC, correct? (yes, I know it is) |
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deliberate
Premium
join:2002-10-25
1 edit | reply to prestonlewis
See also other posts, including mine, at both
»[Other] [Sunrocket ]LNP
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»[SunRocket] LNP confirmation with 128 addresses
SunRocket LNP can really mess stuff up. Sure hope I haven't lost my LNP#. I would NOT advise an LNP to SR until/unless they commit to doing it much better than they are right now. Support is useless in trying to resolve problems as they calin that they cannot even talk to the LNP dept.
HTH,
- Don |
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dimans
join:2001-04-20
Westport, CT
| reply to prestonlewis
How about a cancellation of a porting request?
Tried 6 month ago to port SBC local line to Broadvoice.
They suck on that matter. Broadvoice did not do a port that time.
Two month ago sign for DSL with SBC with VOIP from Broadvoice in mind. Asked Broadvoice DO NOT port SBC number then and asked them now after SBC called to inform me that my SBC line with DSL service on it about to be cancelled.
Does anybody know what to do
to STOP PORT OF NUMBER?
Regards, |
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SteverBeaver
Premium
join:2005-03-21
Joliet, IL
| reply to prestonlewis
One point regarding porting numbers with distinctive ring. I was sucessfully able to port over both my main line with distinctive ring and the actual distinctive ring number to Voice Pulse from SBC. Prior to starting the port, I asked a VP rep if there would be a problem with the fact that I have distinctive ring. He said there should be no issue as long as you port both numbers over at the same time.
Of course different providers may have different policies when it comes to distinctive ring, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I was able to do it between SBC & VP. |
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barrasso76
join:2004-09-05
Alfred, ME
| reply to jmich
Ehhh my god..This is my job at bayring.com all i do is lnp and hot cut numbers all day...Npac is my friend..You know u can port your number over faster if u ask hard..90% of my lnps and hot cuts are from ver...At&t and new england voice suck..BUt like i said lnp a number is easy for me ,its my job:) |
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francishsu
join:2000-06-27
Wyoming, MI
1 edit | reply to prestonlewis
Well, Voicepulse just rejected my LNP attempt from VP to QuantumVoice. I guess I'll have to lose my number. In fact, VP reserves the right to change your number at any time, without notifying you.
Now I'll have to see if QV has a simliar policy. If they do, that might make me back out of switching to them.
Here's the relevant paragraph in VP's TOS:
10.12. Use of Device/Identifier. Except as provided otherwise by law, you have no property rights to any information, credentials, phone number or other identifier ("Identifier") that we, our agents, or manufacturers of the Device have provisioned for use with the Service or Device, and you agree we may change any such Identifier at any time with or without prior notice to you. In the event we are required by law to transfer any Identifier to you on termination of this Agreement, we may charge you a fee. We reserve the right to refuse porting or transfer of any Identifier provisioned by us.
Update.. here's QuantumVoice's policy. Much more consumer-friendly, I think:
j.) Number Transfer on Service Termination. AMS will arrange, if requested by Customer, for transferring Customer telephone number upon termination of Service, provided that Customer's account has been terminated and account is completely current including payment for all charges and disconnect fees. |
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jeffnyc
join:2004-06-09
New York, NY
| reply to prestonlewis
Sunrocket's Policy...
Telephone Number. You may not sell any telephone number assigned by SunRocket ("Number"). Upon termination of the Service, SunRocket may, in its sole discretion, release a Number that was ported in from a previous service provider to SunRocket by you and used in connection with your Service provisioned by SunRocket to your new service provider, if such new service provider is able to accept such Number, provided that your entire account has been terminated, that you have paid all charges due to SunRocket, and that you request the transfer upon terminating your account.
So basically, their terms of service states that it is at their discretion whether or not they will port out a number that you port in. |
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usa2k
Please PRAY for Rebekah
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
clubs: |  reply to rjackson
Re: Porting Rules
I'm not with VoicePulse -- Packet8 reports problems porting wireless numbers -- I would *think* it can be done if VP has their own presence in the same Rate Center. |
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rjackson
Premium,Mod
join:2002-04-02
Ringgold, GA
clubs:
Host:
SMC Networks
Automotive
VOIP Tech Chat
ViaTalk
Teleblend
| reply to prestonlewis
Re: Porting Rules
So I gather numbers assigned by a wireless carrier can be ported as well. I'm thinking about cancelling my cell phone service with Verizon Wireless, but before I do I wouldn't mind porting my mobile number to my VoicePulse account and use it as a virtual number on my main line. Anyone tried that before? |
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