ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | Censorship!
Censorship! And from a state with an interesting past.  |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL | Where's Larry Flynt when you need him... |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
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join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | reply to ColdFiltered
How is it censorship if a customer requests to be on the list?
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ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
| If the list is per subscriber that is a good thing, but if it isn't then its blocking someone else, which is a bad thing. I am not aware of anything in place that an ISP or wholesale network provider can do per individual subscriber to block individual website IPs. That would create Access Control Lists miles long and reduce a router's operating potential to a crippling point.
And why should it be the responsability of the Internet Service Provider? Why are people outside one's home AGAIN being made to enforce what goes on inside that home? |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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| said by ColdFiltered  :If the list is per subscriber that is a good thing, but if it isn't then its blocking someone else, which is a bad thing. I am not aware of anything in place that an ISP or wholesale network provider can do per individual subscriber to block individual website IPs. That would create Access Control Lists miles long and reduce a router's operating potential to a crippling point. And why should it be the responsability of the Internet Service Provider? Why are people outside one's home AGAIN being made to enforce what goes on inside that home? You know, when I got my broadband connection, I was issued a network appliance by my ISP. Similar is done for many other ISPs. The supplied network appliances could be configured to do the filtering (I think Belkin used to sell a device with NetNanny built in).
Simple and effective and doesn't bog down upstream routers with ungodly long rule sets.
-tom
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| You simply get an appliance such as McAfee's Webshield appliance. You're just blocking URL's so all you do is add that url to the black list.
These things are way more powerful than routers. We have the e500 and it's twin 1 gig CPU's and a gig of memory and runs a cut down, hardened, version of Red Hat by the looks of it.
We have 300+ users behind it and it's transparent bandwidth and responcewise.
Sure it would have to be even bigger and more powerful for an ISP, but it can be done.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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| said by Wills :You simply get an appliance such as McAfee's Webshield appliance. You're just blocking URL's so all you do is add that url to the black list. These things are way more powerful than routers. We have the e500 and it's twin 1 gig CPU's and a gig of memory and runs a cut down, hardened, version of Red Hat by the looks of it. We have 300+ users behind it and it's transparent bandwidth and responcewise. Sure it would have to be even bigger and more powerful for an ISP, but it can be done. Or, as I said elsewhere, you go the opposite direction (smaller) and use the device as premises equipment.
-tom
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