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cahiatt
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Re: Slow

said by tdumaine See Profile:

Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...

RavenTKR

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Cleveland, OH

I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
Although It would be great if the people in Congress would act this fast to pass a law that isn't geared toward a single individual.


wah wah wah

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Has anyone bothered to read the Schiavo law, and say which part of it they think is 'unconstitutional?'

It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.


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said by wah wah wah:

Has anyone bothered to read the Schiavo law, and say which part of it they think is 'unconstitutional?'

It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.
what concerns me is that most Repubs are staunch states rightest, unless it is something that is contrary to their way of thinking...I just went through this with my father inlaws death....I honored his wishes, he had a living will , power of attorney....(Me)He had cancer through out his body with no chance what so ever of survival and I made sure that he was not plugged in,as per his wishes..... this has nothing to do with "Schiavo" it's all political....I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
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said by woody7 See Profile:

I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
Please be aware that there is much much more to this case than anyone has reported. Not the least of which is that Mr. Schiavo suddenly remembered that Terri would want to die several (I believe 7) years after the whole thing started, almost immediately after having won money under the guise of wanting to take care of her for the rest of her life, and around the same time as he took on a girlfriend.

And that's not to mention the paramedics who suspected foul play, and how speech therapy and most outside contact (even TV and Radio background noise) was suddenly stopped once she got to the point where she was starting to form words.
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said by RavenTKR See Profile:

Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
It is inconceivable that this decision will be struck down on that basis; the Constitution grants Congress the power to establish the Court system and set their juridictions, so this recent bill which grants the Federal Court jurisdiction is very squarely within Congressional purview.

It was rash, foolish, dangerous, sets a bad precedent, grandstanding, against state's rights, but it was not unconstitutional.

Steve
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said by tdumaine See Profile:

Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...
Now you've done it!
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footballdude
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said by RavenTKR See Profile:

I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress creates the boundaries of the courts. Absolutely nothing unConstitutional about what they did with this Florida thing.

Separation of Church and State does not exist in the Constitution. The phrase comes from a personal letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a friend that later became public knowledge. Most people that are proponents of this idea like to pretend that it is our law, but it isn't.


fireflier
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reply to Combat Chuck
Might shed some objective light on things here:

»abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html
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wah wah wah

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reply to woody7
I'd be interested in your explanation of exactly where it says in the U.S. Constitution that it is exclusively a "State's right" to issue orders that will directly result in the death of a person?

Death sentences are routinely appealed to the federal level; the U.S. Supreme Court just ordered that no minor may be executed any where in the United States. (Which I disagree with, but that is beside the point.)

How do you think this is any less of a case deserving of a federal hearing?
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