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tdumaine

join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA
Slow

Government = slow

RavenTKR

join:2003-05-12
Cleveland, OH

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I would say they're busy doing the bidding for MPAA/RIAA. I wonder why they prioritize copyright infringement violators instead of credit card theft. Because of the influence RIAA/MPAA wields in Congress and to our politicians.

cahiatt
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reply to tdumaine
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Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...


Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY
reply to RavenTKR
Don't forget Gov/ISP ignorance in the matters of zombie PCs and spam.
But as You said, MPAA/RIAA has fatter wallets, than spam/DDOS victims.
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DVOOR8

join:2001-12-24
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reply to RavenTKR
said by RavenTKR See Profile:

I would say they're busy doing the bidding for MPAA/RIAA. I wonder why they prioritize copyright infringement violators for credit card theft. Because of the influence RIAA/MPAA wields in Congress and to our politicians.
If the lobbyists are not filling the politicians and law makers pockets, there is no concern. If Pluto D Nicosa hired a lobbyist firm and paid off enough lawmakers, he could make this kind of scam perfectly legal and have the victims tossed in jail for questioning the charges.

RavenTKR

join:2003-05-12
Cleveland, OH
This scenario sounds a little bit far fetched, but who knows?

jjp4345

join:2005-03-22
Montgomery, AL

reply to DVOOR8
The small companies and individuals do not have lobbyists, so their interests are of no concern to the Federal Government and Congress. One need only look at the aviation problem after 9/11 to see that. A senior aide to Trasnportation Security Administrator was quoted as saying on September 23, 2002, "Neither TSA nor the Federal Government is interested in any technology to prevent the hijacking of aircraft." Makes you wonder where he was on 9/11. Also, most of the members of Congress say "the reason new technologies to prevent the hijacking of aircraft, like SRTA001, are not being funded is the American public is not asking for them to be funded." Did you know you had to ask the Federal Government and Congress to protect you?

RavenTKR

join:2003-05-12
Cleveland, OH

reply to cahiatt
I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
Although It would be great if the people in Congress would act this fast to pass a law that isn't geared toward a single individual.

RavenTKR

join:2003-05-12
Cleveland, OH
reply to DVOOR8
They could indeed hire a lobbyist firm with the money they stole.


wah wah wah

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reply to RavenTKR
Has anyone bothered to read the Schiavo law, and say which part of it they think is 'unconstitutional?'

It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.


woody7
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said by wah wah wah:

Has anyone bothered to read the Schiavo law, and say which part of it they think is 'unconstitutional?'

It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.
what concerns me is that most Repubs are staunch states rightest, unless it is something that is contrary to their way of thinking...I just went through this with my father inlaws death....I honored his wishes, he had a living will , power of attorney....(Me)He had cancer through out his body with no chance what so ever of survival and I made sure that he was not plugged in,as per his wishes..... this has nothing to do with "Schiavo" it's all political....I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
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MrWhippit
You Big Dummy Gimmie Back My Bandwith
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Philadelphia, PA
reply to tdumaine
Maybe these Pluto guys are VERY SMART...lol
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Wills

join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL

reply to jjp4345
Yes, you have to ask the Federal Government to protect you, because if they just step in to take the appropriate action you all bitch about more big brother....

Make up your damn minds.
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Wills

join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL

reply to MrWhippit
Or maybe, just maybe, the goverment IS looking into it, yet their investigation is still in it's early stages, and they don't want to kill the trail, but want to keep following it to the head.

Hence the reason the scam is still active.
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Combat Chuck
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Erie, PA

reply to woody7
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I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
Please be aware that there is much much more to this case than anyone has reported. Not the least of which is that Mr. Schiavo suddenly remembered that Terri would want to die several (I believe 7) years after the whole thing started, almost immediately after having won money under the guise of wanting to take care of her for the rest of her life, and around the same time as he took on a girlfriend.

And that's not to mention the paramedics who suspected foul play, and how speech therapy and most outside contact (even TV and Radio background noise) was suddenly stopped once she got to the point where she was starting to form words.
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91439306
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join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT

reply to RavenTKR
The issue here is that a credit clearing house (one that warehouses your personal data and the date of millions of American citizens who use credit) had their database compromised by unscrupulous customers who bought access to that data by posing as legitimate creditors/merchant account holders.
This was not reported as a zombie/phishing attack. It was social engineering that occured, according to the reports I've read.
What will have to happen is either stricter control over whom the clearing houses like ChoicePoint Data accept as clients, or the removal of the ability of companies like that to maintain databases of personal information. Since the latter is unlikely, I'd expect that this could happen again.
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Steve
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Yorba Linda, CA


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reply to RavenTKR
said by RavenTKR See Profile:

Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
It is inconceivable that this decision will be struck down on that basis; the Constitution grants Congress the power to establish the Court system and set their juridictions, so this recent bill which grants the Federal Court jurisdiction is very squarely within Congressional purview.

It was rash, foolish, dangerous, sets a bad precedent, grandstanding, against state's rights, but it was not unconstitutional.

Steve
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Kip patterson
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join:2000-10-23
Columbus, OH
reply to 91439306
Choicepoint is NOT a credit card clearing house. There is no reason to think that the Choicepoint scam has any thing to do with Pluto.


N10Cities
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said by tdumaine See Profile:

Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...
Now you've done it!
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footballdude
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Imperial, MO

reply to RavenTKR
said by RavenTKR See Profile:

I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress creates the boundaries of the courts. Absolutely nothing unConstitutional about what they did with this Florida thing.

Separation of Church and State does not exist in the Constitution. The phrase comes from a personal letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a friend that later became public knowledge. Most people that are proponents of this idea like to pretend that it is our law, but it isn't.
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