jmkraft
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Re: Vonage Forums
ksmith501,
IMHO it was a legitimate question from someone that is genuinely interested in why an American would want to live in Mexico...
On the original topic - I can see people flocking to the sat providers if these countries keep this up...
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ksmith501
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| so, the "I assumed Mexico was dirty and corrupt and generally unsafe, or else millions of Mexicans wouldn't be streaming across the desert every year to get here" part is excused because he is "genuinely interested"? sheesh what a world we live in. |
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footballdude
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| said by ksmith501:
so, the "I assumed Mexico was dirty and corrupt and generally unsafe, or else millions of Mexicans wouldn't be streaming across the desert every year to get here" part is excused because he is "genuinely interested"? sheesh what a world we live in.
How about we rephrase? If Mexico is nice enough that someone with wealth would want to retire there, why are people leaving in droves? |
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jmkraft
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ksmith501,
You are correct, maybe he should check his facts - he might have exagerated a little by saying "millions". But by merely stating what his assumptions are should not be cause for alarm...
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | What I find interesting after a Mexican President finishs their term in office they most always leave the country to live in Europe like a King with their pocketed ill gotten loot. |
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altidude
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said by jmkraft  :...maybe he should check his facts - he might have exagerated a little by saying "millions"... No, that number is not exaggerated at all. There are nearly 3 million illegal immigrants from Mexico as of 1996, 54 percent of all illegal immigrants.
»uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs···egal.htm |
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crazediamond
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said by footballdude :How about we rephrase? If Mexico is nice enough that someone with wealth would want to retire there, why are people leaving in droves? I dont know, but being wealthy probably can make most places nicer, just like being poor can make them worse.
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jmkraft
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said by altidude :said by jmkraft :...maybe he should check his facts - he might have exagerated a little by saying "millions"... No, that number is not exaggerated at all. There are nearly 3 million illegal immigrants from Mexico as of 1996, 54 percent of all illegal immigrants. » uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs···egal.htm the "millions" was refered to as annually...
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vonageproblem3333
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»www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent···33b.html
5.9 million illegal aliens from Mexico currently in the US.
600K people come from Mexico to the US every year. |
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Tzale
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said by jmkraft :ksmith501, You are correct, maybe he should check his facts - he might have exagerated a little by saying "millions". But by merely stating what his assumptions are should not be cause for alarm... No.... At least 750,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are streaming in from Mexico per year, this is what we KNOW... Think about it, there is probably a MILLION/YEAR who come in illegally!
We need to put an end to this, that corrupt country is ruining America.
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gcastell
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1 edit | Just to complement the information,a between 600,000 and amillion americans live in Mexico...
»www.freep.com/news/nw/mexico21e_20050321.htm
Now, people that do not understand Mexican reality are always eager to give an opinion, people that don't understand economics are the same... but the truth is a lot more complex and I don't think is topic for a broadband forum. |
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Mexican Invasion
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TIME Magazine, Sept 20, 2004, pegged it at 15,000,000 illegal aliens, with approximately 3,000,000 illegal aliens crossing the U.S. Border per year. That number included the ones who are caught (the ones we Know about), and added in the estimated number of ones who aren't caught (the ones we don't know about, but we know we miss a lot).
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with asking why someone would want to retire to Mexico. There are a lot nicer places in the world, and 3,000,000 Mexicans per year can't be wrong! |
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footballdude
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said by crazediamond :I dont know, but being wealthy probably can make most places nicer, just like being poor can make them worse. Can't argue with that, but why is the question being considered so outrageous? |
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Telmex customers unhappy with the slowdown affecting their Vonage VoIP won't be happy switching to Satellite. I installed a DirecWay system in Dec 2004 and signed up for a Vonage-type service (iconnecthere.com) and it simply wouldn't work. It turned out that DirecWays UPLOAD speeds are horrible, at times as low as 19k, but never higher than dialup. I ended up subscribing to Crystal Voice, which is cheap, but outgoing only and the delay is annoying at best. |
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