said by arehead :

any one can helpe to post list of ADSL price from NOL...?coz I have confused for TEDATA thanks..

said by Myself to NTRA head :

Dear Ma'am,

This is "****** *****"; one of the loyal ADSL customers of Nile online-NOL, a class-A local ISP

Regarding phone conversation early this mourning with Miss Sahar, Here is a complete illustration about the mentioned issue with NOL unlimited bandwidth ADSL services:
-Till August 2007, NOL had an international dedicated bandwidth pipeline(s) coming directly from Flag telecom

-Starting from mid September 2007, there had been a downtime for a couple of days followed by a change in the routing to get TEdata bandwidth pipe involved in the entry point to Egypt distributing to all NOL ADSL -and even leased line- users.

-During ICT Cairo on Feb. 24th 2008, TEdata had deducted its *unlimited bandwidth* service fees to a new -lower- values for all its ADSL customers
»www.tedata.net/new/tedata_egypt/···SecId=62

-During March 2008, There has been a successful fully acquisition of NOL by Etisalat Misr and later on, NOL has got a dedicated international bandwidth pipeline from Flag telecom for their leased line customers *only*!

-NOL ADSL price list is only available at »www.adsl-egypt.com/services_prices.php -but it was not updated -on web- since July 2007!!!-
Current price list: -updated-
256Kbps = EGP 95/month
512Kbps = EGP 165/month
1024Kbps = EGP 290/month
2048Kbps = EGP 530/month

-From Feb. till this moment, NOL kept TEdata as a provider for its ADSL bandwidth, Yet had not deduct a penny from its service fees
ie: NOL is re-selling TEData services with an extra 19-40% fees
Example:: TEdata users having 2Mbps with an unlimited bandwidth plan, pay EGP 380/month
While, I'm a NOL user having the same 2Mbps coming from the *same* source/provider, but i pay EGP 530/month
This is an Extra EGP 150 per month = Excess 1800EGP yearly which is *TOO* much in addition to be completely unfair and opposes customer protection/telecom regulation.

Meanwhile,
I have carefully double checked CPA laws »www.cpa.gov.eg/legislations_rules.htm and i would suggest that NOL behaviour is illegal and violates Telecom regulation rules in 2 specifc points:

* Re-selling a service *must* be in a corresponding price similar to -or less than- the main provider price list, but not with any extra fees
* Any ISP re-sells services from another local ISP should be considered class-B or C ISP -but NOT Class-A-

And my inquiry is,

1. Does TRA rules allow a class-A ISP -like NOL- to have the right to re-sell services from another local class-A ISP competitor -like TEdata-?
2. Should NOL go down to class-B ISP being re-selling TEdata services and deprived from dedicated international bandwidth -at least for their ADSL users-?
3. Does TRA have the authority enforcing NOL to update their unfair price list to be exact as their provider TEdata price list?
4. Should i call NOL for a refund for the extra fees during period started from TEdata new prices on Feb. 2008 till now -in a form of balance credit-?

Attached:

* Trace route screen shot to yahoo.com showing TEdata highlighted at hop No.6 within NOL routing

* Affirmative Trace route screen shot to google.com showing TEdata highlighted at hop No.6 within NOL routing

* TEdata price list screen shot after ICT cairo Feb. 2008 [unlimited bandwidth plans]

* LinkDotNet -another Class-A local ISP- price list screen shot also after ICT cairo [unlimited bandwidth plans]

Feel free to contact me seeking any further information, Highly appreciating your time.

Kindly advise.

said by hippo :

a week ago I did a trace from Hurghada through NOL and I saw the same result, they are using TE-Data for international BW! I mean they can buy capacity, it happens all the time but not completely rely on another competitor!

Dear Sir,
In response to your inquiries below, please be informed of the following,
1. The ADSL service with speed 256 KB is the only price regulated service. This means that NTRA can only control the prices of this speed, whereas higher speeds' pricing are left to market dynamics.
2. Regarding the NOL line case of reselling the ADSL service, the actual case is not that of service reselling. The case is that NOL faced issues with the international bandwidth provider that resulted in international bandwidth disruption for NOL. At the time T.E. Data had some free international bandwidth, and so NOL decided to rent that bandwidth from T.E. Data. NOL's action was out of its concern for its consumers who should be transparent to any dispute between NOL and its international bandwidth provider. The aim of the action was to continue offering the consumers uninterrupted ADSL service. Because the international bandwidth that NOL was using belongs initially to T.E. Data, your Traceroute showed the IP addresses assigned to T.E. Data. This does not mean that NOL is reselling the ADSL service on behalf of T.E. Data.

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said by s_Fanous :

- There is actually an issue with the marine cable linking Egypt to France, and so during peak times the bandwidth and ping times are atrocious.

- ISPs are now bandwidth throttling.