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KoolMoe
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Re: Interesting

It's interesting how VZ complains about having to allow competitors access to their copper, complaining they can't make any money under such a rule, but then turn around and voluntarily offer access to their Fiber.

So apparently the only difference is VZ doesn't like having a cap on the rates they can charge. That's understandable.
The real question then becomes what VZ will charge competing ISPs for access to their fiber? Assuming it's proportionally, significantly more, how will ISPs justify their higher costs?
They'll have to have very lean operating expenses or be able to throw premium service on top of the generic connection.

This model can work. SpeakEasy is a good example. They're not public so I don't know their financials, but they seem to be doing well servicing the 'higher end' market even though their prices are higher-end too.

I'd have had a little more respect for VZ and the rest of the ILECs if they had just said, upfront, that they don't like rates resulting from TA'96. Occasionally out would come 'the cap is too low', even though they never justified it with true costs. How come everyone has to play games and try to spin everything...."Technically impossible", "Unfair regulation", "Confusing for customers" - blah.

I'm glad VZ will offer access. I just hope they do it in a way that there can be pseudo-competition and not higher-priced versions of the same VZ service.
(and I say pseudo-competition because when the company owning the lines also provides service, the resellers are at the mercy of that company - that's not really competition).
KM

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VZ complains about sharing copper because they have no investment to worry about. Those lines are already in use for POTS, so using them for DSL is quite less expensive than FIOS.

Again, it's all about the money for them. A business will always do what's in its best interests. It just happens that this time it benefits the consumer.

Watch out for them to stop sharing their FIOS lines when these contracts end and they've proven their service is viable to the consumer.
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scooby
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You are also forgetting that the FCC or state commissions were setting copper line share (une-p and une-l) pricing. With FIOS VZ will pick the price. Big difference there.
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