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wesm
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join:1999-07-29
Lewisville, TX
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Re: if they only knew.....
COs are full and the lines are horrible in NYC for the same reasons the roads exhibit the same conditions: too many people packed into too small a space. In this case, the people are the customers seeking DSL, and the space is the capacity available.
Come to Dallas/Fort Worth sometime. You'll see that CO space is plentiful and most of the lines (that are within physical range) are perfectly qualified for DSL. Yes, getting DSL in NYC probably sucks like a vacuum cleaner, so people will go with the much-easier cable. However, in other areas, DSL will win because it has advantages cable can't or won't match (such as possible congestion). This isn't unheard of in the marketing world. Look at the difference in cell phone usage between the US and Europe.
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yazdzik
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join:2000-07-26
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| [QUOTE=wesm]COs are full and the lines are horrible in NYC for the same reasons the roads exhibit the same conditions: too many people packed into too small a space. In this case, the people are the customers seeking DSL, and the space is the capacity available.
Dear Friends at DSLR,
There is also a very real problem in Manhattan, at least, in that, while fifty or one hundred dollars a month is a lot of money, in, let us say, Tulsa, where one's rent may be eight hundred dollars a month, in New York, basically, rents run between one thousand and fifteen hundred dollars, per room per month. Therefore, the difference between nineteen dollars for Dial-up, and forty-nine dollars for 608k ADSL, is invisible. That means, almost everybody in the better areas of Manhattan has or demands(New Yorkers do not simply want something )broadband access. Ironically, then, we have the worst service, since, when telephones came into being, we had the first lines. Likewise, DSL. We have serious capacity issues.
Then, logically, we are paid, because of the cost of living, more per hour, and the two minutes spent establishing a dial-up can be a substantial amount of money, per month, thence, even if one were to save merely two dollars per day, DSL would have to be sixty dollars more per month than dial-up before dial-up were cheaper. At that point, the forty dollar difference between dial-up and 1.5 DSL may not be invisible, but is meaningless. Simply put, DSL is cheaper than dial-up. There is no mystery as to why there are no pairs available. Wireless service also, particularly around stock market closing time is over-burdened. The communications needs of New Yorkers are almost unimaginable anywhere else, if for no other reason than sheer economics. When the city fathers granted cable monopolies, no one could have imagined that most people, not just a few, would require, not just want, broadband access. Until FTTH is universally available here, there is little competition for cable, as there is little room for telco based growth. There are many, many people who run NASDAQ level II screens all day, and, many, many people, who work from the comfort of their living rooms. Many of them making six or seven figure incomes!
Then, the costs of doing business here are yet another issue. Does any one here think that Bignet makes a profit on my DSL service? I am unsure, but I would guess not. I do not know their costs, but I know, approximately, how many man-hours I have spent with their set-up, service, and tech support people. If the total revenue from my year's contract is about $540, and I have spent about ten man-hours with them, at a cost of, conservatively $10 per, how cheap would the line have to be, and how reliable, before they had even a 2% margin. Is this typical?
I apologise if the narrative offend anyone, but meant it to let people see things that may not be immediately clear west of the Hudson, and the questions as to how we can establish, use, enjoy, and pay for, really good broadband access here and elsewhere are both intended seriously and sincerely put forth.
All good wishes,
Yazdzik | |
Motorhead5
join:2000-06-05
Woodside, NY
| reply to wesm
Too many cooks...
DSL will fail because there are too many companies involved, each with its own share of flaws and problems, each competing directly with one another for some or all aspects of service, and none with any reason (or sense) to work with one another. A DSL installation/line/account is like a chain: if one link breaks (i.e., any one of the companies one is forced to deal with), the whole thing is useless. It's easier for one company (cable) to improve its service and performance than it is for three or four (any of those involved in DSL). And, as such, there is a much lower probability that the DSL companies will each get their acts together collectively than for any cable company to do the same.
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