dibbb
join:2003-09-19 | reply to tommytomtom
Re: But lets see their retention
I must have mis-read your post, I understand what you're saying now.
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tommytomtom
join:2002-08-15
Springfield, VA | reply to dibbb
Well damn! Of course I know Vonnage is VOIP. My point was that I want the backup that a cell phone provides. Believe it or not, sometimes my cable goes out. |
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sbhusted
join:2000-05-14
Bethlehem, PA | reply to dibbb
I think his intent was to say that he uses Vonage, but he would never consider using VOIP if he didn't have cell service as a backup.
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dibbb
join:2003-09-19 |  reply to tommytomtom
tommytomtom - uhhh, did you know that Vonage IS VoIP? |
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dddane
join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL
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i disagree... people are dropping their POTS by the thousands... it has little to do with voip though, and more to do with cell phone usage. a lot of people have no use for a landline even... and i can hardly imagine someone paying for a cell phone, POTS, *and* VoIP line... if they're paying for VOIP its probably a guarantee that they'll be dropping their POTS |
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tommytomtom
join:2002-08-15
Springfield, VA
2 edits | reply to starstuff
said by starstuff  :said by NewLife :I would love to revisit this article in about 6 months to see their retention percent. Sure almost anyone with a new service can add tons of users during a period of time, but the real profits don't start until you have retention of those customers. Right now probably VOIP is not mature enough to drop your POTS but eventually as VOIP matures to a more robust service people will drop their land lines. Telcos will be the biggest losers if they don't adapt fast enough to the changing market. 11K/week = 572K/year wow! half a million users just for TW... I wonder how Vonage, Packet8 and others are doing? Not good news for the telcos  I use Vonage. Without a cell phone, I would not consider using VOIP. |
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Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
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join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH
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said by starstuff :Right now probably VOIP is not mature enough to drop your POTS but eventually as VOIP matures to a more robust service people will drop their land lines. Telcos will be the biggest losers if they don't adapt fast enough to the changing market. 11K/week = 572K/year wow! half a million users just for TW... I wonder how Vonage, Packet8 and others are doing? Not good news for the telcos I would actually say that VoIP is mature enough right now. I don't believe broadband is mature enough IMO. Sure, the speeds are there, but reliability and penetration of broadband is what is hurting the VoIP providers, not the VoIP services themselves.
I too am a subscriber to Vonage and love the service! Unfortunately though my recent ISP, Adelphia, kept having outages all of the time which also meant I didn't have a working phone. I have since switched to Alltel DSL, which although slower than Adelphia's HSI, is much more reliable and the speeds are also more consistent across the board. To me telcos have the advantage as far as broadband goes (in terms of reliability and consistency). They just need to start offering their own VoIP services as well as get going on rolling out IPTV. |
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starstuff
Fly By Wire
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join:2001-12-05
Mcallen, TX
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said by NewLife :I would love to revisit this article in about 6 months to see their retention percent. Sure almost anyone with a new service can add tons of users during a period of time, but the real profits don't start until you have retention of those customers. Right now probably VOIP is not mature enough to drop your POTS but eventually as VOIP matures to a more robust service people will drop their land lines. Telcos will be the biggest losers if they don't adapt fast enough to the changing market.
11K/week = 572K/year wow! half a million users just for TW... I wonder how Vonage, Packet8 and others are doing?
Not good news for the telcos
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NewLife
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join:2001-07-31
Calhoun, GA
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| I would love to revisit this article in about 6 months to see their retention percent. Sure almost anyone with a new service can add tons of users during a period of time, but the real profits don't start until you have retention of those customers.
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