rewket
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Longueuil, QC
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The people i know that are in the cc buisness told me about this, tis a new way to make money off them without most people noticing (most people dont notice a little 30$ and when they do and they're told they bought something they just dont care)
anyway imo anyone who gets his cc stolen is a gook, check the security of the friggin site before, if it mails your info including your cc something is wrong?
this should be dealt like spybots(ircbots)
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wifi4milez
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| Thats not really a fair thing to say! Contrary to what YOU may believe a large percentage of credit card fraud is NOT due to people giving it out during phishing scams. You should really read the news before making broad comments like that. The real culprits are large, legit companies who have a lack of security on their servers. Thieves hack into the databases of everyday companies and then steal the customer data. This data includes personal details such as credit cards, birth days, and in some cases SS numbers. Look at the Paris Hilton thing if you dont believe me! These thieves then use this stolen information in scams like the one this thread is based on. While there are literally thousands or morons out there who do give up their CC information to fake websites, identity theft can happen to anyone, anywhere. I considered myself bulletproof when it came to my identity. That was before I had it stolen. To this day when I purchase products online I still click on the "contact us" link so I can get the companies phone number and then I call the order in. I was lucky that the "only" thing that happened was some kid(?) signed up for Columbia Music House and received some free CD's for about a year. I promptly called my CC company as soon as I found out about it, and then after 5 months I finally got my money back. It was a hassle, and they refuse to give me any information about the person who did it. The bottom line is that IDENTITY THEFT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, NO MATTER HOW TECHNICALLY SAVVY THEY ARE. Report these scumbags and lets send them all to jail. What people really should do is rally together and make corporations who "lose" your data take responsibility.
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rewket
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Longueuil, QC | ok i didnt read it whole because you obviously know NOTHING about carding
carders do get their cc's from smaller companies, ALL OF THEM
all they do with big companies is scam them (paypal/ebay) |
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oldduke
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I agree 100% with wifi4milez. First, you're a very thin thinker. More to the point, though: Before Internet buying my wife bought a $20 item from Home Shopping Club over the phone as advertised on TV. About a month later Visa calls that our card is maxed. An HSC employee stole the credit card number AND all the ID info and had a ton of stuff sent to Detroit. We wanted to prosecute. Visa said no, they'd just write it off. There is as much mis-, non- and malfeasance on the industry side as there is negligence on the user side.
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Jason Levine
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As wifi4milez  said, having your CC number stolen doesn't mean that you entered it into an insecure site. The store's database can be hacked. A malicious worker can obtain and sell the credit card information. In many cases, the person whose card number is stolen might not have done anything wrong.
A year or so ago, my wife was trying to pay my Discover card and found out that it had been disabled by Discover. Apparently, BJ's Wholesale Club had a security breach of some sort (not involving an online store) and all of the credit card numbers used in the club (even in the physical store) during a period of time were potentially compromised.
BJ's informed the credit card companies. Discover Card took the preventative measure of cancelling the cards and reissuing new numbers. Besides being upset with them for not communicating this action to me, I was glad that they did it. Better to deal with having to wait for the new card than to deal with constant fraudulent charges.
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DrewCapu
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said by rewket :The people i know that are in the cc buisness told me about this, tis a new way to make money off them without most people noticing (most people dont notice a little 30$ and when they do and they're told they bought something they just dont care) Until they realize it was for a cd or a dvd. Then they say, "What? I've never bought a cd or a dvd in my life!"
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pcdebb
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said by rewket :(most people dont notice a little 30$ and when they do and they're told they bought something they just dont care) if a person gets hit with this bogus charge and has $35 in their account, they will notice. it would be naive of a person to have an "i dont care" attitude to any dollar amount they didnt charge. the fraudsters bank on just that. apparently more people notice these days, which is a good thing. like it was mentioned before, $30 individually may not seem like much, but hit a few thousand for that amount and they are stacking it lovely. i wonder if all the proceeds are eventually ending up in one pot?
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pcdebb
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said by Jason Levine :As wifi4milez said, having your CC number stolen doesn't mean that you entered it into an insecure site. The store's database can be hacked. A malicious worker can obtain and sell the credit card information. In many cases, the person whose card number is stolen might not have done anything wrong. Exactly. My mom's account got hit (thankfully she had less than $5) like 5 times in 10 minutes by some wankers in Belize. She doesnt even have a computer,but yet someone got her account info and printed themselves a card. it can happen to anyone
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Grethor
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Leave the fine people of Vietnam out of this. |
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Combat Chuck
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said by wifi4milez :To this day when I purchase products online I still click on the "contact us" link so I can get the companies phone number and then I call the order in. You do know that that isn't going to prevent someone from hacking the companies databases and stealing your credit card, right? Read Jason Levine 's post below for why. I'll only add that many, if not most, companies call center employees are just entering an order for you over on the very same website you could of ordered on yourself, or they're using a frontend that does the exact same thing.
Back several years ago when purchasing thing over the web was just getting started; I remember reading an article where they were asking some expert (it was the head of the fraud department at visa if I remember correctly) if ordering over the web was safe; he replied that if the site was using proper encryption that it was actually safer because someone wanting to steal your card would have to work a lot harder to get your CC number than the employee you were giving the number to or the person with the scanner listening in if your calling in on a cordless.
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wifi4milez
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said by rewket :ok i didnt read it whole because you obviously know NOTHING about carding carders do get their cc's from smaller companies, ALL OF THEM all they do with big companies is scam them (paypal/ebay) WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN??? If you want to start out by insulting everyone who has had their identity stolen thats one thing. At least learn how to SPEAK AND WRITE IN ENGLISH so that you meaningless point makes sense.
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My credit card and personal info was stolen by hackers, for a ticket purchase I made at a theatre box office IN PERSON over 6 years ago. How did my credit card info get online? The Georgia Institute of Technology theatre department put all their credit card transactions, whether done online, by phone or in person, on an unsecured server that was accessible through the internet, and hackers got over 30,000 records. You'd think an institute like GA Tech, who teaches this stuff, would be on the forefront of security & technology. NOT!
For those who think credit card fraud is the fault of the cardholder, think again. I think it should be illegal to put someones information online from a transaction that was done in person or via the mail. I had no idea my information was on a server somewhere, especially for a transaction that was done so long ago. |
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simplykristi
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It does not matter if you purchase online or offline... Anyone is a target for identity theft.
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