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NetEng_Dude

join:2004-07-17


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BPL is Junk Broadband

The NMRC is nothing more than an industry lobbying front and PR mouthpiece (aka Astroturf). The BPL industry shills have been making the same ridiculous claim for the past several years. 2003, 2004, 2005, it's still not the year for BPL, and never will be. It's a turkey. Regardless, it is increasingly apparent that the BPL industry is comprised of the clueless and incompetent when it comes to Internet broadband. The list of BPL failures grows daily. No traction, defective technology, bad press. It's a desperate industry.

BPL is junk no matter how many hyped-up press releases with bogus claims are issued. The biggest laugh in this one, the claim that a quarter million homes had the opportunity to choose BPL. Looks like 99.99% must have said no to the offer. What a joke.

Kudos to BBR and others in the media for exposing these phony special interest lobbying fronts. Well done.


Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by NetEng_Dude See Profile:

2003, 2004, 2005, it's still not the year for BPL, and never will be. It's a turkey. Regardless, it is increasingly apparent that the BPL industry is comprised of the clueless and incompetent when it comes to Internet broadband. The list of BPL failures grows daily. No traction, defective technology, bad press. It's a desperate industry.

BPL is junk no matter how many hyped-up press releases with bogus claims are issued.
Well, why don't you take your OBVIOSULY superior intelligence and help these folks out?

You surely could make a few million off consulting fees alone.


kg4icg

join:2003-11-16
Herndon, VA
reply to NetEng_Dude
To bad they for got the little tidbit about how the plug was pulled on the Manassas BPL situation because of the high cost and problems.

R Collins

p.s. my truck is bigger then your truck cause my mommy said so


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

said by kg4icg See Profile:

To bad they for got the little tidbit about how the plug was pulled on the Manassas BPL situation because of the high cost and problems.
The plug was not pulled on Manassas, they're just on their second partner/contractor. The following were shut down:

Cedar Rapids, Iowa

The system was deactivated by the carrier after a ham filed interference complaints. The carrier attempted to resolve the interference issues, but after 11 weeks or so, the interference was still unresolved. The FCC stepped in and the carrier voluntarily deactivated the system.

Penn Yan, New York

The system had open interference complaints, and the system integrator decided to discontinue the BPL trial and migrate to wireless.

Raleigh, North Carolina

The carrier announced deactivation of the system which they claim was a successful trial. The system had numerous interference complaints lodged, however, most of which were unresolved at the time of the announcement. It's arguable whether this shut down was due to interference, but the FCC never officially dismissed the interference complaints.

vote4change

join:2004-10-19
Omaha, NE

Re: BPL is faster than cable/dsl so far

BS Alert!!!!!

Looks like the BPL pumpers have infiltrated!

Have you no clue? You say BPL is faster than cable and DSL? Yea, right! Shannon is rolling in his grave! The BEST BPL can provide is about 4 Mbit (on a very good day, exceeding FCC limits I might add). Typical speeds are in the 256 kbps range. The reports of 200 MBit are in a lab with controlled noise. Cable, a SHIELDED medium, has much, much greater bandwidth capacity.

»www.its.bldrdoc.gov/fs-1037/dir-···4816.htm


rawgerz
In Debt we trust
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
you are either 10 years old, have a 14 IQ, or dont speak ENGLISH

jazzy112

join:2003-12-05
Fargo, ND

kind of funny that both the BPL user and the doubter are using the same cable ISP:)

Fact is the back plane will never support as many users as cable or dsl can. The solutions I have seen for motels all come back to a single 100mbps ethernet port, sure hope they hadn't planned on doing DVOD ever

I have seen that the CPE's are suppose to be able to hanble 7mbps, however that's only 14 bandwidth hogs and your pipe is maxed out. Kind of pathetic. I would rather take 802.11b fixed wireless with all its flaws over the way more expensive BPL.

gurugordon

join:2004-03-24
Sunbury, PA

said by NYC BPL user:

I love BPL internet access... much faster than cable and dsl offered in this city... if you have VIDEO-PHONE attached to it, you will be surprised how clear is the video streaming- no delay and haziness in pics !!!

You got to have it to enjoy the video streaming on your computer screen !!!
As long as you are their only customer I'm sure you'll continue to enjoy this service. Just wait until they get two or three more folk online, and watch your connection speeds plummet. 256 KBs and video phones do not get along too well together.


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

said by NYC BPL user:

You got to try DS2 200mbps BPL modem now... i have to subscribe to CINEMANOW to download movies on my computer... try this link so that you`ll see how the BPL modem they gave me works in my apartment !!!

»www.ds2.es/

I LOVE NEW YORK CITY !!!
You may have an in-building 200mbps system, but you're not getting your Internet access from it.


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

reply to jazzy112
said by jazzy112 See Profile:

kind of funny that both the BPL user and the doubter are using the same cable ISP:)
And he claims to be using the NYC BPL system, which is Ambient equipment, and he's posting off topic about Ambient. He's the same anonymous poster from last time that never replies directly, he just posts duplicate articles.


notsodumb

@duke-energy.com
reply to vote4change
Ahh the scream of the ignorant.


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
reply to rf_engineer
A spammer financially tied to the success of BPL who knows these discussions get picked up easily by Google....he pops up every time.


Karl Bode
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200MBps? Is that why industry can barely offer 500kbps BPL right now without causing spectrum armageddon?

I understand your excitement, particularly if your paycheck comes from a BPL hardware vendor or utility, by how about a little reality injected into your posts....

w2co

join:2003-07-16
Longmont, CO

reply to Matt
Re: BPL is Junk Broadband

"Well, why don't you take your OBVIOSULY superior intelligence and help these folks out?"

Because you cannot help out a naturally flawed technology.
Why don't you read up on the technology and all of it's problems, not just flame off on the things you know nothing about. Jeeze! it's people like you who are the reason for this crappy technology and why it's made it this far in the US. What a waste of time and money - too bad this money will need to be paid back to the uninformed investors. Guess who will end up paying it back via higher bills.

David95037

join:2003-04-16
Morgan Hill, CA
·Be There

notsodumb
anonymous
duke-energy.com
reply to vote4change
Ahh the scream of the ignorant.
--- X

Ah the meaningless comment direct from Duke Energy one of the BPL companies driven by greed.

The Duke plan is to install the BPL system then make all the ratepayers pick up the tab.

»charlotte.bizjournals.com/charlo···ry2.html

No cost to Duke only profits and destruction of the spectrum.


Dude111
An Awesome Dude
Premium
join:2003-08-04
USA
·Time Warner VOIP

reply to NetEng_Dude
Lets all hope this BPL crap falls to the bottom of the ocean!!!!!!!

NO ONE WANTS IT!!!!!!! (Especially those of us that love listening to .530 - 70Mhz!!! (A HELL OF ALOT OF SPECTRUM!!)

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