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DaMaGeINC
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Stupid Bellsouth

All they are doing is prolonging their death. I dont know what is keeping them from just running fiber to the home. They just like to milk technologys for every penny they can, and in the long run, they will always be the last to do anything. If they just went ahead and ran the fiber, then they at least have ADVANTAGE. They would be able to run whatever they wanted on the fiber. And would be able to compete with everything. Then the money wouldent be a problem. The fiber would pay for itself 100times faster than copper ever did.
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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:

All they are doing is prolonging their death. I dont know what is keeping them from just running fiber to the home. They just like to milk technologys for every penny they can, and in the long run, they will always be the last to do anything. If they just went ahead and ran the fiber, then they at least have ADVANTAGE. They would be able to run whatever they wanted on the fiber. And would be able to compete with everything. Then the money wouldent be a problem. The fiber would pay for itself 100times faster than copper ever did.
DaMaGeINC,
That is exactly what it is all about. Most Bells are rewiring their infrastructure as fast as they can. It's a massive undertaking though and fibre to the home is still VERY expensive. That is why they are only concentrating on doing it in high density areas where they can get the most bang for their infrastructure upgrade buck. For all their talk about fibre to the home, the majority of customers are years away from seeing it if at all. If your out in the boonies or low density areas then I wouldn't even give my grandkids a hope of seeing it.

Soundfx4

join:2005-02-08
Roanoke, VA

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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:

All they are doing is prolonging their death. I dont know what is keeping them from just running fiber to the home. They just like to milk technologys for every penny they can, and in the long run, they will always be the last to do anything. If they just went ahead and ran the fiber, then they at least have ADVANTAGE. They would be able to run whatever they wanted on the fiber. And would be able to compete with everything. Then the money wouldent be a problem. The fiber would pay for itself 100times faster than copper ever did.
I wish more people understood the truth like this guy here does. Sure it is expensive to run fiber, but that isn't the point. The point here is that they should have started running fiber years ago! The telco companies in the US are indeed greedy SOBS. And people that try to say otherwise know that this is the truth, but they try to believe that there are very good reasons that fiber isn't at their house yet. They say things to make them feel better about the situation, like, "well the US is so big", or, "It is very expensive to run fiber, I completely understand it taking this long". It is all about market pressure and if we REALLY pulled out all the stops and told the Telcos, we are sick of your BS, than they would be pushed to lay fiber faster. Every time I think about how 100 Mbps up/down is COMPLETELY possible and affordable it just makes my blood boil to know that people here are only getting 1-5 Mbps down, and 256Kbps - 1 Mbps up! (sigh) But nobody seams to even care...


ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA

said by Soundfx4 See Profile:

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:


All they are doing is prolonging their death. I dont know what is keeping them from just running fiber to the home. They just like to milk technologys for every penny they can, and in the long run, they will always be the last to do anything. If they just went ahead and ran the fiber, then they at least have ADVANTAGE. They would be able to run whatever they wanted on the fiber. And would be able to compete with everything. Then the money wouldent be a problem. The fiber would pay for itself 100times faster than copper ever did.
I wish more people understood the truth like this guy here does. Sure it is expensive to run fiber, but that isn't the point. The point here is that they should have started running fiber years ago! The telco companies in the US are indeed greedy SOBS. And people that try to say otherwise know that this is the truth, but they try to believe that there are very good reasons that fiber isn't at their house yet. They say things to make them feel better about the situation, like, "well the US is so big", or, "It is very expensive to run fiber, I completely understand it taking this long". It is all about market pressure and if we REALLY pulled out all the stops and told the Telcos, we are sick of your BS, than they would be pushed to lay fiber faster. Every time I think about how 100 Mbps up/down is COMPLETELY possible and affordable it just makes my blood boil to know that people here are only getting 1-5 Mbps down, and 256Kbps - 1 Mbps up! (sigh) But nobody seams to even care...
Bellsouth did run a trial of FTTC solutions for which there are several thousand subscribers using it to this day. The reason, at the time, to not continue further deployment was costs.

I think a lot of you feel that the RBOCs have to answer to no one other than the end user, but that is pretty naive. And local-loop solutions, regardless of what form they take, is only part of the first-layer problem as there is a tremendous amount of network beyond the last mile.

As always, you can sit here and disagree, even call them stupid, but without a firm understanding of the technology, the financial infrastructure, and the politics behind a publicly traded company then you have little credability to lean on.

If the OP is so much brighter (ahem, less stupid) then he can certainly raise some capital and bring us the show, and do it in a shorter period of time. I'll even provide him with the sunglasses to help with that brightness.
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