Reidster
@206.169.x.x
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Re: Help Me Understand
Have any of you actually taken the time to understand the difference between spyware and legitimate software? Or do you all just sit here and rant about things you don't understand and have never actually investigated yourselves? Spyware sucks - and COAST was helping rid the world of it by actually creating definitions and standards for what really is spyware. Use your brains before you start ranting about stuff you don't understand. COAST was a legit organization that added real value to the world and had very high standards. A little education never hurt anyone. But I guess none of you would know that. |
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wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD | It really doesn't take a lot of time. It's pretty simple. I know it when I see it, and so do you. Call it "adware" instead of "spyware", if you like; it makes no difference. It's junkware, and it doesn't belong on my computer. |
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bedelman
Premium
join:2004-06-20
Cambridge, MA
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"definitions" -- but see 180's current practices
Reidster, it's all well and good to defend the need for definitions and standards. Who can argue with that?
But the problems here don't step from COAST's creation of definitions and standards.
Some of the problems:
1) Certifying a known bad actor, that has been documented to profit from a number of deceptive installation methods. See e.g. my web site showing installation through security holes ( »www.benedelman.org/news/111804-1.html )
2) Accepting payment for such certification.
3) Issuing certification, and allowing such certificiation to be publicized, even before improved/reformed procedures begin to be implemented, such that the public (and even COAST members) have slim to no basis on which to assess the correctness of the certification.
(Special notes on my web site: It's down, at present, due to a major DDoS attack. Will be back up tomorrow, I hope/expect.) |
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BIGHUSKER
join:2002-01-20
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to Reidster
BEWARE, Reidster is from 180Solutions!!
said by Reidster:
Have any of you actually taken the time to understand the difference between spyware and legitimate software? Or do you all just sit here and rant about things you don't understand and have never actually investigated yourselves? Spyware sucks - and COAST was helping rid the world of it by actually creating definitions and standards for what really is spyware. Use your brains before you start ranting about stuff you don't understand. COAST was a legit organization that added real value to the world and had very high standards. A little education never hurt anyone. But I guess none of you would know that.
Nice try 180 shill, but your scumbag identity has been found out - »/whois/206.169.156.1
Your piece of crap company does not offer legitimate software, and I remove it from *every* computer I have access to. It spies on your browsing habits and forces unwanted ads onto your system...that's all there is to it. The only reason it ever gets installed is because it comes bundled with software or people don't know what they're getting into when they click the "Yes I want to install this!" button.
I know more about spyware and computer security then you could ever hope to. Go back to your minimum wage job as a scumbag shill for 180Solutions. You are completely worthless. |
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