wasanon
join:2005-01-18
Madison, WI
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Re: Secretly, the MPAA likes this
I recall that the MPAA and RIAA are supposedly required or volunteering to turn over the funds they collect to the author or owner of the copywrited materials (IF, and only IF, the copywrite owner applies to receive them.).
In theory these actions should not become a profit source for them, but instead for the copywrite owners. |
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BonezX
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Canada
| said by wasanon  :IF, and only IF, the copywrite owner applies to receive them. there's prolly millions of peices of paperwork, not to mention there could be some sort of pay decrease because of getting the settlement money. |
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stet
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join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI | reply to wasanon
The MPAA and RIAA are the copyright holders! |
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fundamentalz
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Moorpark, CA | actually they aren't, they are just representing the owners of the copyright |
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wasanon
join:2005-01-18
Madison, WI
| ahmmm... let's get this point a bit clearer.
As I understand it they are SELF APPOINTED to represent the copywrite owners.
Just because Ted and Alice asked them to represent them does not mean that they also represent Bob and George and Larry whom know nothing about this.
I also recall reading that the MPAA and RIAA make no attempts to contact these copywrite holders that they HAVE collected money for and let them know the funds are available. It's up to the copywrite holder to somehow magically know that monies are waiting for them should they apply.
Where is there any clear authorization for them to wield this power? A large portion of the copywrite holders they claim to be representing neither know they are being represented nor know that they may go to these organizations to take possession of the funds they have collected in their name.
Dirty... scummy... slimy... slanted. There is a deeper agenda driving this. Follow the money.
I call for honesty and due process on this matter. Full and open reporting of fund collected and on behalf of whom. Full information to be provided to the copywrite owners in a timely manner. For them to do less is in my opinion immoral, unethical, and criminal.
I'll probably get sued now... despite not even owning a stereo. |
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fundamentalz
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Moorpark, CA
| said by wasanon :ahmmm... let's get this point a bit clearer. I also recall reading that the MPAA and RIAA make no attempts to contact these copywrite holders that they HAVE collected money for and let them know the funds are available. It's up to the copywrite holder to somehow magically know that monies are waiting for them should they apply. Well sort of, i'm not a lawyer, but i think that what happens is that the artists sign up with the big labels, who are part of the RIAA, and movie studios go to MPAA. Now for the Artists, it is probably in their contract somewhere that they agree to allow the RIAA to pursue anyone that infringes upon the copyright.
said by wasanon :I also recall reading that the MPAA and RIAA make no attempts to contact these copywrite holders that they HAVE collected money for and let them know the funds are available. It's up to the copywrite holder to somehow magically know that monies are waiting for them should they apply. Seeing as they haven't actually won any CI cases, i don't think that they have to pay any money to the artists. Everyone settles out of court, and while the artists may be entitled to the settlements, the process that they have to go through is probably not worth the few bucks they would get ($5000 / 500 different artists) |
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Plasticman
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said by wasanon :I recall that the MPAA and RIAA are supposedly required or volunteering to turn over the funds they collect to the author or owner of the copywrited materials (IF, and only IF, the copywrite owner applies to receive them.). In theory these actions should not become a profit source for them, but instead for the copywrite owners. The MPAA and RIAA are the copywrite owners as they are the record labels.... Not the artists. The RIAA collects something like 50 cents or something like that per song per fan base count from a radio station. And I remember seeing a RIAA statement that the money from songs on Radio does not go the artists at all. They said their songs playing on the radio is more than fair and adiquate compensation for the singers/bands.
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stet
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| Some royalties from radio play (and CD sales) go to the song writers which aren't necessarily the musicians that recorded the song.
The money isn't in being in a band, it's in writing songs. Now if you are a band member who also gets writing credits, then you get the best of it all. You get paid for your initial recording of the album, paid to tour, and paid royalties based on sales and radio play.
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wasanon
join:2005-01-18
Madison, WI
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I wasn't aware that monies collected in via court action were any less to compensate the copywrite holders than monies agree to be paid to avoid court action.
We need to locate an authority here. I don't mean a lawyer either. I mean someone that knows what's happening to these funds. Too much speculation and I would really like to know the facts. ARE the copywrite holders receiving them, and if not then why not, and whom is?
Oh... wait a minute... this is the internet.... all facts will be obfuscated, misconstrued, and mis-representation will run rampant. We'll never really know.
Certainly wish we could though. |
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Thaler
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Encino, CA
| said by wasanon :I wasn't aware that monies collected in via court action were any less to compensate the copywrite holders than monies agree to be paid to avoid court action. Keep in mind, these "court actions" never actually go to a penalty phase. RIAA/MPAA are quick to settle with the scared-shatless defendant(s) for fractions of a penny on the dollar of said "damages" so they can have another shining example of "the dangers of piracy" lose in the world.
Hell, I saw in the various news media about RIAA being zinged by the artists (legally or just public sparring, I'm not sure) for not putting the settlement monies back to the artists they were stolen from, but rather adding to their corporate coffers. These blood-suckers are no worse than the "pirates" that are "damaging" the artists to begin with. Wish I had a link to the story at the moment, but alas, web searching has failed me for the time being.  |
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