Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt
said by salahx  :Back when Windows 95 was introduced, and there was a lot of 16-bit Windows 3.1 code. In order to allow the 16-bit to call 32-bit code (and vice-versa), Windows used a technique called "thunking". This was part fo a facility knowns as WOW (Windows on Windows). So the 32/64-bit issues will probably be dealt with the same way. That's exactly how 32/64-bit will be dealt with in Win64. While there is a penalty from the thunking, it is extremely low, something like less than 1% in most situations. Still, my A64 3200+ flies with 32-bit XP, I can't wait to try the RTM of XP64 with some real driver support. As it stands now, I can't boot off RAID with RC1.
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to LinuxJunkie
Back when Windows 95 was introduced, and there was a lot of 16-bit Windows 3.1 code. In order to allow the 16-bit to call 32-bit code (and vice-versa), Windows used a technique called "thunking". This was part fo a facility knowns as WOW (Windows on Windows). So the 32/64-bit issues will probably be dealt with the same way. |
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The Old Man's Gonna Roll the Hard Six
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join:2001-05-24
Vancouver, BC
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Using 32-bit apps isn't as transparent as they advertise - which is why the latest reviews on x64 Windows RC1 indicates there are small number of compatibility problems with existing apps. 32- and 64-bit code can't be used interchangeably. 32-bit apps need 32-bit DLL's and vice versa. For 32-bit apps, the OS uses the WoW64 compatibility mode which results in a (very?) small performance penalty. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
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Why does it have to be emulated? AMD64 and EM64T (Intel's version of AMD64 extensions) both support 32-bit code natively. Also, Microsoft has developed the 64-bit version of Windows so it will also run 32-bit software (without emulation, to my understanding). MS removed all legacy 16-bit support but who cares? |
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innoman
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Raleigh, NC
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3DMark is a 32bit program isnt it? If you run a 32bit program in a 64bit environment, it is going to be crap because a 32bit environment has to be emulated. That whole WOW Windows on Windows thing. Emulators take up a lot of resources and are generally pretty slow...
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Plldwnyrpnts
join:2003-04-19
Chicago, IL
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon laptop
I installed the beta on my a64 workstation and it appears to run well. I haven't had a chance to test it much since ther isn't a whole lot of support for it just yet (driverwise anyway). ATI does have drivers for it but when I ran 3DMark it looked like complete garbage. It may be a while before it reaches a mature state. |
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