Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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| Of course techies aren't going to care!
I know a lot of non-technical people who love their ISP start pages. I wouldn't say they are lost without them, but they would like them to start up when they click on their browser.
To me, they are a waste of time. I know where to get all the information that I need. However, there are people out there that don't know where or how to get information on the internet. Therefore, they need a place to start from.
The results from this poll will be skewed. For the most part, people who know their way around the internet will have no use for a start page and will find them worthless. Since broadbandreports has a very high concentration of technically sound people, you and I both know what the results will be.
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
clubs: | Dude, wrong thread.
The clue train left a week ago on this article, feel free to read up the counterarguments and beat up yourself.
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DavidJWood
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join:2001-10-12
UK
| reply to BPL is cool
Running the risk of starting a discussion in an irrelevant place (for which I apologise).
I think those that are listening have already heard you BPL fan.
Let's assume that with the expense of repeaters every 1km and modified power lines - which will be considerable - you get 1Gbit/second and (unlikely, but we'll assume it) no EMC issues. You then share that between how many subscribers? If it's 250, you're then into the range of VDSL speeds once you allow for the contention - though I do agree that there's a chance of people's speeds peaking faster with shared 1Gbps than VDSL would allow.
In any case, this is vapourware at the moment - it's an estimate in a research paper funded by a company with an interest.
As others have said in more relevant threads, deep fibre will give you much more bandwidth with no EMC issues at probably less cost (the bandwidth of single mode fibre is very high indeed). If you're going to connect the subscribers using BPL (PLT / PLC - call it which you will), that's quite expensive because of the meter bypass; FTTH may actually prove cheaper and VDSL would likely cheaper still. As the piece you quoted says "The Penn State researchers said while the technology would improve, lowering the costs of power-line broadband would remain challenging."
For EMC and financial reasons, I don't think widespread BPL is going to happen. Let's see whether there ever is large scale rollout.
David
(1000/250 ADSL and really not feeling the need for a faster connection at this stage) |
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rajanurs
join:2005-01-12
India
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Re: Of course techies aren't going to care!
Most times I am using Opera which has a convenient Image toggle and Author Mode / User mode toggle on the tool bar.
Opera also has a easy to edit personal bar which holds all my daily visit hosting control panel access, forums and email access pages.
More convenient features from Opera:an easy to edit magic wand to auto insert username and passwords.
One click to open all links in a browser. For example I can open ten forums or open ten pages of a portal all at one go.
And Opera lets you import IE favourites and save them in a html file. I open this html file, see the link I want to visit and click on it. LOL
Only problem is there are some sites which are not browser compatible with Opera. Like Gmail for instance. |
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BonezX
Basement Dweller
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join:2004-04-13
Canada | you done being an advertisement ? |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | reply to Nightfall
not really...no. |
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@qwest.net | reply to Nightfall
techies never have or ever will care about the customers that pay their salaries, why? customers are a dime a dozen, techies are not. damn, don't we just love the obvious. |
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BPL PRO
@optonline.net
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Penn STATE STUDY REPORTS BPL CAPABLE> 1gbps speed
fyi: from UPLC.ORG, JAN.18, 2005
INDUSTRY: PENN STATE STUDY REPORTS BPL CAPABLE OF 1 Gbps SPEEDS
Imagine BPL speeds of 1 Gigabit per second. A Penn State professor says BPL is not far off today, even though speeds now are only in the order of 2-3 Mbps. Professor Mohsen Kavehrad, Director of Penn State’s Center for Information & Communications Technology published an AT&T-funded study which developed a computer-simulated power line transmission model that came close to achieving these speeds under ideal conditions. Prof. Kavehrad stated "if you condition those power lines, they're an omnipresent national treasure waiting to be tapped for broadband Internet service delivery, especially in rural areas where cable or DSL are unavailable." He concluded that junctions and branches in the U.S. overhead grid cause broadband signals to reflect, resulting in degradation and decreased transmission capacity. "The signal can bounce back and forth in the lines if there is no proper impedance matching," said Kavehrad: "The bouncing takes energy away from the signal and the loss is reflected in the ultimate capacity." Under their model, the researchers said repeaters would be placed every 0.62 mile and power lines would have to be modified to reduce interference to data signals. Kavehrad believes that these engineering issues can be resolved, but that interference issues must also be addressed. A copy of the study is available on the UPLC website. |
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