Re: If you can't beat them; join them

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AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA	reply to RedXII1234 Re: If you can't beat them; join them said by RedXII1234 : That said; you are probably running with very limited privileges which is something most Windows users never do, because they don't know any better than "internet explorer is the internet." If users ran as a limited user and only used the administrator account for certain administrative issues, then Windows would not have even have half the problems it has now. This needs to first start with the software vendors themselves. Most software (game titles especially) assume that the current user has full Administrative control at all times. Personally testing several games and apps, only a small amount were able to run w/o tweaking involved...and some had files located god-knows-wherever, that I just gave up trying to find out what I needed to give Users access to. So, don't blame your average computer user for not running as a Limited User...most current day software doesn't make it easy for you to do so to begin with.
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RedXII1234 Premium,Mod join:2001-02-26 localhost Host: /dev/null Broadband Tweaks ISDN Fiber Optic AOL Broadband edit: January 15th, @04:19PM	Had no problems using this little guy: As for "tweaking", the concept is the same in Linux as it is in Windows. The whole idea is to not to let them do anything they want on the system as a limited user, or easily for that matter. Linux: Open console, type "su" then the password that goes to root, then exec the install. Windows: Right-click, "Run as..." and provide credentials for an account with administrator privileges. So the average computer can still be blamed. Works in Windows 2000 as well, and including Home Edition of XP. -- Asus A7N8X-X, Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2.0GHz, 768MB Crucial DDR RAM (PC2100), GeForce FX 5600Ultra 128MB DDR AGP, nForce NIC, Samsung SD-616T 16x DVD-ROM and Sony CRX215E1 48x24x48 CD-RW, 40GB & 30GB HDD.
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AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA edit: January 15th, @04:29PM	I thought you were supposed to only do the "Run as..." was for Administrative tasks, such as installing software, chaging settings, etc. I would personally have all my family PCs running as limited users, but the whole "making them have to do 'Run as...'" every time they wish to run an installed application would drive me nuts. Hell, it took me a YEAR to break them of the habit of opening up AOL to access the internet. Me: No...we've been on DSL for the last few months, you don't NEED to run AOL to get on the 'net. You're always on! Just open the browser. Family member: Web browser...you mean AOL, right? Me: sigh
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RedXII1234 Premium,Mod join:2001-02-26 localhost Host: /dev/null Broadband Tweaks ISDN Fiber Optic AOL Broadband edit: January 15th, @04:32PM	I guess we share something. I am the only knowledgeable person in this house, we have 2 laptops and 2-3 desktops, one of which is mine. I run the desktop downstairs as limited users. They tend to get viruses and adware, not knowing the difference between Yes and No (they assume everything you have to say 'Yes' to). If they want something installed, they have to ask me, and I do the Run as or login with my admin account. If they get infected, I don't want that computer compromising mine and nor do I want to fix it. They'd be very lost without me. I would still want the said Linux features implemented though -- Asus A7N8X-X, Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2.0GHz, 768MB Crucial DDR RAM (PC2100), GeForce FX 5600Ultra 128MB DDR AGP, nForce NIC, Samsung SD-616T 16x DVD-ROM and Sony CRX215E1 48x24x48 CD-RW, 40GB & 30GB HDD.
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AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA	reply to RedXII1234 (add on) I think you're a wee bit confused. I don't mean that they have a problem installing things under a Limited user...I completely understand that. I meant having a problem RUNNING certain applications...Diablo II comes to mind. By installation default, I wasn't able to run DII as a limited user, w/o setting the whole Diablo II directory to users having Full Control. Other programs involved giving limited users more rights to vague folders all over the system. This is what I meant that software vendors need to do the first step, and make their software more "limited user" friendly by default. Don't make me search for whatever folder(s) your program has installed itself into, test & see what rights we need, etc...just have me be able to install as Admin, and run as a limited user w/o problems.
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RedXII1234 Premium,Mod join:2001-02-26 localhost edit: January 15th, @04:48PM	I can agree with that, not the user's fault. I don't like Linux because it's "su command, run install; then the user configures, configures, configures, configures, ..."
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AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA	Which is precisely why I have to leave my family PCs running with users w/ full admin rights. Otherwise, I'll be spending buttloads of time, trying to figure out exactly what tweaks I have to make to my installed programs to make them "limited user" friendly. The current most popular app in use at home is WoW, and I think even that might not run correctly if launched by a limited user. Thanks for your input, BTW. I thought I was the only one going crazy in this situation here. ^_^
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