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authagent
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Fenton, MO

reply to Mele20
Re: I agree with the PUC

Why would your cell phone not work if there was a power outage? Both cell phone's and POTS lines need electricity to run, and both have battery backups at the central office, and at the towers for cell phones.

What you are calling a lifeline is a POTS line. Please send me links showing anyone using the word lifeline to describe your twisted pair connection to the PSTN. In the telco industry Lifeline refers to special pricing for the low income crowd. If you want I can show you 100's of links proving that.

Where do you get your information that "VoIP is intended to displace the local traditional phone company." ????

You have no idea what you are talking about. The big telcos will be the biggest players in VoIP, and the vonages of the world will just be a blip on the radar. Sure the telcos will have to compete with cable companies now for residential customers, and perhaps business customers in the future.

Basically like Duke is Duke, VoIP is VoIP. No end of companies. No babies dying. No cell phones not working when electricity goes out. No making carrier class rules. No calling POTS lines, lifelines.... Thank you.

Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

Here in Hawaii we refer to POTS also as lifeline service. Because that is what 911 from a landline is! I have read a lot of articles on the internet talking about Mainland 911 and in our newspapers in Hawaii and they frequently refer to 911 landline as lifeline services to distingush that kind of 911 from the pathetic 911 that is not real 911 but is offered by Vonage, TW, etc.

BTW, the service for extremely poor persons is not available to low income persons as I am low income and cannot get it. Only those with incomes below $10,000 a year are eligible. I have not checked in the last several years but I don't believe the Hawaii legislature has ever changed the rule although there has been talk about the limit being way too low especially in Hawaii with the very high cost of living. I used to be able to get it but there is no adjustment for the slight yearly increase in disability benefits that I get from Social Security Disability and so I am above the limit now but still low income. It started out many years ago at the $10,000 limit and that was realistic limit then. Today it is mostly a joke as frequently those below that limit are living in tents or on the streets and don't have a way to have a phone.

Verizon Hawaii is being sold to Carlyle simply because Verizon wants out of the landline business as that is dying. That is what I have read in our news media repeatedly. Hawaii needs tremendous upgrade of the lines and Verizon didn't want to put the necessary money into the upgrading. The Consumer Advocate has forced Carlyle to make a number of concessions and now approves of the sale. But many residents, observers and persons in the telco business think Hawaii will now be left far behind as far as technology goes and also that Carlyle is not going to do a thing about the DSL situation here. I live in the second largest city in the state and I cannot get DSL. Carlyle is only looking out for their investors and will probably sell in a few years. I, like many here, am opposed to this sale particularly to Carlyle.

As for cell phones, they can't be used in a lot of areas here and they go out frequently also when the electricity goes off I am told by people who have them. Plus, 911 from a cell phone is not true 911.
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authagent
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that sucks that you can't get DSL. Do you use dial up?
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