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Sunburn

join:2000-10-05
Denver, CO

(AA) US Army/DOJ/FBI/SS to hunt down cheaters!

Lol,

Thought you guys would find this interesting:

Inquirer Article:

The US Army is mad, and gunning for you

American Army man speaks out

By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 12 January 2005, 17:47
Tyan Tomcat i7221 Server board
A FILING ON a forum from Phil DeLuca at America's Army game project indicates that the US Army is not at all happy at people s0dding about with its code.

DeLuca said that the US Army is very unhappy with hackers and others breaching its licence agreements, and it knows who these people are.

He said: "When you tamper with the [America's Army] game not only are you breaking the EULA, you're misusing Army property, and worse, you're misusing US Army computer programs and equipment".

He said the US Army knows who the offenders are warned that "tampering with software and servers owned or used by the Army is cybercrime".

And his filing on the forum, which you can read here (»forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic···t=143447), ends with a dire warning.

He said: "We know who you are, and can track down where you play from. We have incontrovertible proof you did something illegal. The Army is angry, and we're coming for you". µ

»forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic···t=143447
»www.theinquirer.net/?article=20675

Like some guy said in the AA forum though...I'll believe it when I see it...


Geronimo
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join:2002-03-03
Newark, DE
·Comcast


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Cool I hope this is true. Thank God! I hope they follow Thur with it and put these guys on the six o'clock news. Maybe a few nights with bubba fix these kids.

I play almost nightly and cheating has become a huge problem with this game. Its ashame because the game is superior to any other tactical FPS on the market, and its free.


Akira 28

join:2002-06-17
Garfield, NJ
ya i quit playing that game long time ago cose of cheaters


35375105
Premium
join:2002-11-20
127.0.0.1
reply to Sunburn
I'd like to see them arrest cheaters that use devmode. Which is a cheat they themselves put into their game. I don't think it's going to happen.
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yuyuyuyuyuy

join:2005-01-12
Nor Cal
reply to Sunburn
Re: (AA) US Army/DOJ/FBI/SS to hunt down cheaters

I wish this was true for all games out there. If it was, the online gaming world would be a better place.
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35375105
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join:2002-11-20
127.0.0.1

said by yuyuyuyuyuy See Profile:

I wish this was true for all games out there. If it was, the online gaming world would be a better place.
Oh come on yeah cheaters are annoying but lawsuits and possible jail time for cheating in A GAME? That's rediculous.
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One truth prevails


CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to 35375105
Ummm - not entirely true - it was/is part of the game engine to be used during development of the games that uses the engine. Someone found a way to access it.

The Dev's did NOT code that in and leave it there.
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Brian
America's Army Forum Moderator and America's Army Beta Tester


35375105
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join:2002-11-20
127.0.0.1

said by CylonRed See Profile:

Ummm - not entirely true - it was/is part of the game engine to be used during development of the games that uses the engine. Someone found a way to access it.

The Dev's did NOT code that in and leave it there.
Huh? If they didn't leave it in there then how did someone find a way to "access it"?
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markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to CylonRed
Really no legal way they can enforce that. Its typical PR stunt, let it be know your serious, ban people, but thats it.

This has been beat to death with every game.


US_1st_Cav
M1 Abrams Tanker
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join:2002-10-15
Head-end

reply to Akira 28
Re: (AA) US Army/DOJ/FBI/SS to hunt down cheaters!

said by Akira 28 See Profile:

ya i quit playing that game long time ago cose of cheaters
Ditto.:(
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NunyaBidness
God Bless All Of Us
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join:2001-05-25
Memphis, TN

reply to markopoleo
Re: (AA) US Army/DOJ/FBI/SS to hunt down cheaters

said by markopoleo See Profile:

Really no legal way they can enforce that. Its typical PR stunt, let it be know your serious, ban people, but thats it.

This has been beat to death with every game.
not entirely true in this case
ya see with this game, all the code, and servers are property of the U.S. Army.
not only are they correct that it is a cyber crime, they CAN prosecute someone that violates the EULA or does something to any of the game servers.
don't let yourself be fooled
the U.S Army owns this game.
they can and probably will prosecute some folks over this.

and I for one am glad that they are doing this
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Nunya Bidness


CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to 35375105
said by 35375105 See Profile:

said by CylonRed See Profile:

Ummm - not entirely true - it was/is part of the game engine to be used during development of the games that uses the engine. Someone found a way to access it.

The Dev's did NOT code that in and leave it there.
Huh? If they didn't leave it in there then how did someone find a way to "access it"?
As I said - IT IS PART OF THE GAME ENGINE - it is PART of the engine. No way to "remove" it - it was not coded by the Dev's of the game.
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Brian
America's Army Forum Moderator and America's Army Beta Tester


CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to markopoleo
said by markopoleo See Profile:

Really no legal way they can enforce that. Its typical PR stunt, let it be know your serious, ban people, but thats it.

This has been beat to death with every game.
I don't think anyone implied that all cheaters would disappear suddenly and permanently - especially not me as it is virtually impossible to ban anyone from any game or forum.
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Brian
America's Army Forum Moderator and America's Army Beta Tester


longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX


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In short, *yawn*

AA is a terrible game, I don't know why people play this, I didn't find it that tactically rich at all, more of a marketing ploy to get folks to enlist. /*snicker*

I wouldn't bother.

The Army isn't going to go after a cheater who uses a program, there isn't any monitary gain for them, and it's a waste of the governments time and money for what? some 15 year old pimply faced impressionable kid?

"Why are you in federal prison?"

"I downloaded a game cheat . . ."

- Yeah right . . .snowballs chance in hell of happening.

You want a better game get BF1942 and Desert Combat MOD . .10000% better game.


CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

You dislike AA probably for the same reasons I think Doom, UT, Wolfenstein et al ar horrible boring games that repeat the same thing over and over. At least playing online against others you do nto have AI that does the same thing or does the same 3-4 possible things...
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Brian
America's Army Forum Moderator and America's Army Beta Tester


longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX


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Well . . .

Actually I dislike doom, UT, wolf . . .because of the circle jerk mentality . . .AA isn't any different It's a small corner of the FPS world, for those prospective army enlistee's (kudos to army . .this one is a suckerpunch) HEY THE ARMY IS FUN LOOK11!2
There's much better titles available that came out 3 years ago that accomplish more.

I don't know if you've ever played battlefield 1942 with the desert combat mod, try playing it with bots set to 100% . . .crazy challenging, richer than anything out there tactically, keeps you coming back for more, especially multiplayer.

Probably best multi out there minus HL2 . . which I have not played . . . WoW has me tied up. When WoW is down . .DesertCombat.


35375105
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join:2002-11-20
127.0.0.1

reply to CylonRed
said by CylonRed See Profile:

said by 35375105 See Profile:

said by CylonRed See Profile:

Ummm - not entirely true - it was/is part of the game engine to be used during development of the games that uses the engine. Someone found a way to access it.

The Dev's did NOT code that in and leave it there.
Huh? If they didn't leave it in there then how did someone find a way to "access it"?
As I said - IT IS PART OF THE GAME ENGINE - it is PART of the engine. No way to "remove" it - it was not coded by the Dev's of the game.
Who cares if it was coded by the devs or was already in the Unreal Engine, it's still a part of the game and you cannot get thrown in court/jail for using something that's built into the game and if it happens then that sucks
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One truth prevails


rogue_
I Have A Secret Window
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join:2001-10-17
Lake Hiawatha, NJ

There is no money involved. Unless the army treats it like defacing army property or something. Cuz really AA is nothing more than a marketing tool. Like a billboard. So I can see the army getting pissed off if someone who did not pay for the billboard somehow devalued the marketing value by spray painting all over it. If people cheat in the game they ruin the experience for the prospects the army is seeking, potentially costing the army lost recruits (revenue). I would not cheat in that game, FYI.
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to 35375105
Well - seeing is how the new cheats do not use the mode they won't be. If they had to change a file that AA uses and coded then they could be since they would be breaking the EULA of the game itself by changing a AA file.

Right now - it is CONJECTURE that people state folks will be thrown in jail and the original thing we were discussing (you and I) was the assumption you had that the AA Dev's coded the mode "Which is a cheat they themselves put into their game." that some folks used to cheat with....
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Brian
America's Army Forum Moderator and America's Army Beta Tester


pman09012

join:2004-05-01
Harrisonburg, VA
reply to Sunburn
Re: (AA) US Army/DOJ/FBI/SS to hunt down cheaters!

you people need to start reading news on the frontpage
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