usa2k
Please PRAY for Rebekah
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
clubs:
 ·VOIPo
 ·WOW Internet and C..
·Broadvox Direct
|  reply to vonsen
Re: [O/T] Smile, be happy
said by vonsen  : ... All right, I've decided that humor doesn't work in this forum. ... OT: For humor, try »Team Helix
The worst puns are posted there among other interesting things.
Their prime service is to crunch numbers to help cure cancer!
The FAH (Folding at Home) link in my sig, points to my PC contributions. (TEAM HELIX/TEAM 4)
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Jim -- USA2K
SEE: |DCWU |FAH |PICS |BVX REVIEW |
FWD, Vonage 01/03 to 12/04, & BVX 07/04 to now |
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tj008
join:2004-06-24
Cincinnati, OH
| reply to vonsen
Re: [O/T] Another flame war
Vonsen, I didnt take it as a flame. I love humor! Im all about humor! I have the Comedy Channel for goodness sakes! Used to have Comedy East and West when I had a B.U.D. (Big Ugly Dish, that is)  :D Robin Williams is my best friend...well maybe not.  LOL
Use those smileys on the left to help indicate ones emotion in this one dimensional world (forum) we find ourselves.
All's good, man! 
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
| reply to tj008
said by tj008 :Just because I dont agree with the amount of time you've spent informing us on Lingo's greed, doesnt make me a Lingo employee. Dont go there! All right, I've decided that humor doesn't work in this forum. My comments were satarical (see earlier in the thread). The comments were not intended to incite a flame war. So, <serious face> Kindly, ignore the offending post & lets move on </serious face>.
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Email these Lingo executives about the misrepresented 18% hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com |
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tj008
join:2004-06-24
Cincinnati, OH
| reply to vonsen
Re: [Lingo] is going to charge Excise and Reg Tax
said by vonsen : So.. do you happen to work for lingo? Oh right, I get into trouble when I ask that. Never mind. Forget that I asked. Actually I needed a hobby, so when lingo misrepresented the reasons for their large hike, I made it my life mission to help them realize the error of their ways. Seems like a good way to get rid of that pesky spare time, keeping people up to date with lingo and maybe saving some grief for people who were considering lingo but weren't aware of lingo's shanigans. Does me good. Thanks for your concern, though!
Just because I dont agree with the amount of time you've spent informing us on Lingo's greed, doesnt make me a Lingo employee. Dont go there! Accusations are made for flame wars - not for good discussion.
Aside from this tax/fee issue, Lingo is a great voip provider. The service has been rock solid for me for over 5 months. Of course, if you care to look, I did have my issues with them but all went away when I got a public IP address.
If anyone wants a good voip provider and the feature set works for them, try Lingo. Dont throw the baby out with the bath water! Please! 
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tj008
join:2004-06-24
Cincinnati, OH
| reply to hkvalet
I agree with the principle in all this. And further, Im glad there is a forum to vent and to keep informed on various companies' shananigans.
But still the bottom line remains at the end of the day. If you stay, you're gonna pay.
Besides, looking at the many providers discussed in these hallowed halls, they are all starting to charge. Maybe it's a "keep up with the Jones'" thing. Who knows?!
So, where will you go next? AT&T? No. Vonage? No. Packet8? No. VoicePulse? No. BroadVoice? No.
Looks like the last hold outs (and for how long) are Broadvox Direct and SunRocket. Are there any others? Lets find 'em!
Cheers! |
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hkvalet
Specialist
join:2004-10-18
Las Vegas, NV
| reply to tj008
said by tj008 :When we signed up for service we acknowledged and agreed to the Terms and Conditions of our using the Lingo service. If you dont wish to do so, cancel your service and pay the disconnection fee and be done with Lingo. All this complaining is not doing you or your heart any good. So please, come to terms  with it or cancel the service. If I choose to cancel the service, I am not going to pay the cancellation fee. I understand that there are Terms and Conditions that we acknowledged initially, but here is the thing, PRINCIPLE....
$1.5 and 3% will not kill us, but this is the principle. At this time, we all don't know if Lingo, or other service providers, are collecting the taxes and send it to the IRS and other related government departments. If they really do, we will have nothing to say and complain. If they just collect the taxes into their pockets, then there is no reason we need to pay any cancellation fee if we decide to leave.
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voiplover
Premium
join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH
·callwithus
·Axvoice
1 edit | reply to vonsen
Re: [Off Topic]
said by vonsen : I usually don't. I do appear to have misread your 'join date' and apologise for misquoting that date. As for the rest, please check your sense of humor. If it helps at all, please feel free to make fun of me! --
OK. Your smiley face is bald and has no body! |
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
| reply to tj008
Re: [Lingo] is going to charge Excise and Reg Tax
said by tj008 :No one is happy about paying more money for something they already enjoy using. I think ycool said that he welcomed the new $1.50 per number fee
said by tj008 :So please, come to terms with it or cancel the service. So.. do you happen to work for lingo? Oh right, I get into trouble when I ask that. Never mind. Forget that I asked. Actually I needed a hobby, so when lingo misrepresented the reasons for their large hike, I made it my life mission to help them realize the error of their ways. Seems like a good way to get rid of that pesky spare time, keeping people up to date with lingo and maybe saving some grief for people who were considering lingo but weren't aware of lingo's shanigans. Does me good. Thanks for your concern, though!
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Email these Lingo executives about the misrepresented 18% hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com |
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tj008
join:2004-06-24
Cincinnati, OH
| reply to Robbob90210
No one is happy about paying more money for something they already enjoy using. This includes me.
I wrote the powers that be at Lingo and voiced my opinion about their extra charges and fees. From their perspective, they have explained the company's position on the new fees and taxes.
The bottom line of it all is:
When we signed up for service we acknowledged and agreed to the Terms and Conditions of our using the Lingo service.
Complain as we might, come February 2005, we will be paying the extra fees.
If you dont wish to do so, cancel your service and pay the disconnection fee and be done with Lingo.
All this complaining is not doing you or your heart any good.
So please, come to terms with it or cancel the service.
On the current course, many more voip providers will be charging the fees and taxes. It will soon be a part of the service. The next due diligence many of us will be doing soon is discovering how much and what taxes the voip providers of interest charge.
FWIW
Cheers! |
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
| reply to ycool
said by ycool :Well apparently you don't even know what you are talking about I usually don't. I do appear to have misread your 'join date' and apologise for misquoting that date. As for the rest, please check your sense of humor. If it helps at all, please feel free to make fun of me!
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Email these Lingo executives about the misrepresented 18% hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com |
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usa2k
Please PRAY for Rebekah
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
clubs:
·VOIPo
·WOW Internet and C..
·Broadvox Direct
| reply to ycool
old timer :) |
said by ycool :... click on my userid at the post and you will see ... :) |
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laserjobs
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI
| reply to ycool
If you have no problem paying the extra $1.50/month fee, then PM me for my address and you can send me an extra $1.50/month fee. I love free money.
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Email Lingo about the misrepresented rate hike: customercare@lingo.com primuscare@primustel.com nhazard@primustel.com psingh@primustel.com |
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ycool
join:2001-12-04
Miami, FL
1 edit | reply to vonsen
Well apparently you don't even know what you are talking about, click on my userid at the post and you will see the date i joined dslreports.com is: Joined: 2001-12-04 15:58:36
which is more that I can say for you since yours say: Joined: 2005-01-06 11:15:38
And NO, I do not work for Lingo. |
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laserjobs
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI
| reply to Robbob90210
On that note I just spoke with a friend who knows the industry very well and he said that VOIP providers grossly underestimated their costs from the get go.
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Email Lingo about the misrepresented rate hike: customercare@lingo.com primuscare@primustel.com nhazard@primustel.com psingh@primustel.com |
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
| reply to Robbob90210
For what it's worth, I am less upset with Lingo than I was before (and no, I don't work for Lingo). Their explanation made some sense to me. I admit, their handling of the increase was incredibly clumsy, but they are doing what every other VoIP provider is doing in collecting the 3% FET and charging $1.50 for the RRF.
Even Sunrocket, which includes taxes and other governmental charges in its "bottom line price," reserves the right to increase rates at any time. If taxes go up, its rates will go up (although probably not for those who pay $200 up front). And Sunrocket starts off charging $5 more than Lingo.
Many of these companies are quite small -- I think I read that VoicePulse had eight employees. All of them operate on incredibly thin margins. If not covered by increasing revenues, a small rise in costs could drive many of them out of business. Sunrocket is smart to distinguish itself by offering an up-front payment plan. But if taxes and fees increase dramatically, the company could easily go under, and subscribers would never receive the service they had already paid for. |
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PortMeOver
join:2005-01-09
Pueblo, CO
1 edit | reply to Robbob90210
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
1 edit | reply to ycool
said by ycool : I have no problem paying the extra $1.50/month fee. Well I'm glad that you're happy.
I see that you just joined today. By the merest coincidence I emailed a link to this thread to the thoughtful people over at lingo about two hours before you joined. I don't suppose you work for lingo? No? Well you're still outnumbered about 2000:1 in your opinion.
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Email these Lingo executives about the misrepresented 18% rate hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com |
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ycool
join:2001-12-04
Miami, FL |  reply to Robbob90210
I have no problem paying the extra $1.50/month fee. The TOS support that any taxes may be added. Lingo's service has worked great for me with excellent call quality so I see no problem in paying this extra $1.50 a month fee. |
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laserjobs
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Las Vegas, NV
1 edit | reply to vonsen
I just edited my review for Lingo and gave them the lowest rating due to dishonesty. I suggest others do the same that are upset over this. |
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vonsen
Just Because
Premium
join:2005-01-06
| reply to Robbob90210
Just wanted to bring this thread to the top of the forum, as I just emailed links to this thread and others to the Lingo execs below.
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Email these Lingo executives about the misrepresented 18% rate hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com |
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