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Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL

Blocked sites.....

Does anyone have a list of sites, or know if insight is blocking certain sites?

I have ran into some sites that I keep getting timeout errors on, and they work for other people, and they show up on the google cache. Also can go to a site like anybrowser and get it to come up but it is really slow.

There are other insight subscribers that I have talked to and they say they cannot pull the site up either.... So I was just wondering if this is something on my side, or if insight is actually blocking the site from their side.....

The site will not load on my comp, nor my girlfriends laptop in FireFox, or IE.....
oldjack

join:2002-12-26
Springfield, IL

Re: Blocked sites.....

it would help if you gave us an example.
Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL
LOL...

»www.empornium.us

qos1

join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: Blocked sites.....

Worked fine for me...
maxey13
Premium
join:2001-06-02
Anderson, IN
Does not work for me...

Dennis
Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL
Hm, that always seems to be the case... works for everyone else....

So I guess I am ruling out that insightbb has it blocked on their end.... Still cant figure out why neither mine or my girlfriends comp will load it....?
shwooz

join:2004-09-07
Urbana, IL
Doesn't work for me either (Page Cannot be Displayed)

qos1

join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
Could be a routing issues..maybe tracert's are in order...
Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL
Hm, maybe? That stuff is over my head.... so if anyone else can do that stuff...
fbelcher

join:2000-06-21
East Peoria, IL
Doesnt work in Peoria either.
Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL

Hm, well maby it is insight blocking... which would be retarded.

Heres a screen cap... where it is online and working, through google's cache.

»img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/···tf21.jpg

IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL


1 edit
Your example always works fine for me. If your using IE and XP with SP2. I think sometimes it was problems displaying PHP content. Try clearing your cache. If using software for privacy settings. You might try lowering those as well. You could also check your IE settings. But I have no problems getting that site to work. You might want to edit the link or give a warning here in regards to it. I'm in no way offended by the content their.:D But others might not be so happy in that regard. This is supposed to be a family friendly site.

You could also try using other DNS IP. There is a recent thread in this forum in regards to how to do that.

For the truly paranoid. We could entertain the thought. That this might have to do with Insight blocking P2P in some way shape or form.
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RacenutBG

join:2003-02-18
Bowling Green, KY
I have had this problem in the past. Try plugging in some different DNS numbers and try it.
dinzy

join:2004-11-09
Urbana, IL
Does not work for me either

what are some other DNS Servers

qos1

join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: Blocked sites.....

Assuming you have w2k/xp from the command line try an

nslookup www.empornium.us

and see what the name resolves to and we can compare that to ours...that will tell you if it a DNS problem or with a tracert that it might be a routing problem from your location...
dinzy

join:2004-11-09
Urbana, IL

I switched to 2 speakeasy DNS servers and flushdnsed and get the same error. I wonder what other sites are actually not getting through.

Can someone that can get through get the IP of the site? When I try to ping it it gives an IP of 64.235.252.242 just to try to rule out a DNS issue. Also a tracert would be helpful for those that can get there.

This is what I get
Hop Time 1 Time 2 Time 3 IP Hostname Return TTL Country Time
1 3 ms 9 ms 9 ms 216.26.129.83 [www.DNSstuff.com 1st hop] 252 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.544
2 3 ms 6 ms 6 ms 216.26.128.225 edge-rtr02.ge-0-2-0.sdf.xodiax.net. 252 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.554
3 17 ms 20 ms 31 ms 65.117.168.137 chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net. 251 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.578
4 8 ms 11 ms 12 ms 205.171.20.121 chi-core-01.inet.qwest.net. 250 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.611
5 39 ms 50 ms 56 ms 205.171.8.230 ewr-core-02.inet.qwest.net. 249 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.662
6 40 ms 47 ms 56 ms 205.171.17.130 ewr-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net. 249 UNITED STATES
7 39 ms 49 ms 59 ms 205.171.1.98 [Missing reverse DNS entry] 247 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.803
8 39 ms 49 ms 58 ms 4.68.97.65 ae-1-53.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net. 246 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:29.897
9 82 ms 99 ms 88 ms 64.159.1.157 so-0-0-0.bbr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net. 245 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:30. 48
10 99 ms 109 ms 119 ms 4.68.96.78 so-7-0-0.gar1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net. 246 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:30.157
11 97 ms 85 ms 105 ms 63.209.80.78 ge2-0.cr02.lax01.mzima.net. 246 UNITED STATES Unknown: 82ff28f2
12 96 ms 87 ms 105 ms 64.235.224.210 fe0-niuhi.cust.lax03.mzima.net. 245 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:01:30.396
13 108 ms 118 ms 97 ms 64.235.252.242
[Reached Destination][Missing reverse DNS entry] 53 UNITED STATES Unix: 14:09:49.878

when I do it from »www.dnsstuff.com. When I do it in command prompt I timeout after this step
12 96 ms 87 ms 105 ms 64.235.224.210 fe0-niuhi.cust.lax03.mzima.net. 245 UNITED STATES

Anyone have any ideas?

IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL

Re: Blocked sites.....

As I touched upon above. For testing purposes ( maybe I missed this above ) are you seeing this with just sites that contain torrent information? If so then we need to focus on that. Are there other non torrent sites giving you an issue? Do these sites use PHP?
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qos1

join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA


1 edit
www.empornium.us
Server: ns6.attbi.com
Address: 63.240.76.4

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: empornium.us
Address: 64.235.252.242
Aliases: www.empornium.us

Tracing route to empornium.us 64.235.252.242
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 >> tracert empornium.us
dinzy

join:2004-11-09
Urbana, IL

I get the same thing as ripn except for my dns server.

This is the only site that I am aware of that does not work for me and apparently others in CU yet does for others. I have experienced other sites that have timed out, but is it the same issue or is just a coincidence. Kind of irks me. I cannot see why they would only block this one site. Other torrent sites load just fine. Maybe they just hate porn in CU even though it is their bread and butter

I couldn't care less about empornium.us, but I don't want to stumble upon a whole class of sites that time out and make me think they no longer exist. How many dead links on google searches were really dead?

qos1

join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA

Myself I really doubt that insight is blocking access to any sites...I have no doubt that they can and or have done traffic shaping on P2P in general...but blocking the site's I think would be an all time low that I think even insight is not capable of...Maybe the op should try and just do a fresh complete OS install and start from scratch...then see what's what..
ramsy

join:2005-01-05
Evansville, IN

Re: Blocked sites.....

i'm in southern indiana and have insightbb, what we can figure out here are that torrent sites that insight deams as haveing posible pirated material are being blocked. i can BT knoppix and other OS iso's but forget any other things such as anime or games. get a "http error -1" every time.. tried on my win'2003, winXP, Slack, Gentoo, Knoppix, and Ubunto boxes. if anyone knows how to get around this. drop a line;)
dinzy

join:2004-11-09
Urbana, IL

That sucks! Sounds like you might have Sandvine going on down there. Can you confirm that certain torrents work fine and all others work like crap? Maybe they are testing a filter to do just what you suspect they are doing. It appears that in CU they tested Sandvine and it reduced all p2p to a crawl. Call and complain.

You can get to the website hosting the torrents though right? Cause that is the issue we are having. Maybe empornium is really high traffic and they chose simply to block it in areas where the traffic is bad to begin with. It makes sense bit torrent + pr0n oh no. But I won't care enough to find out until I see other sites that are blocked. Maybe Empornium is blocking this range of IPs from Insight due to some hack or something originating from near here. Seems more likely that is the case.
ramsy

join:2005-01-05
Evansville, IN

got a hold of a tier 3 tech who seemed kind of pissed. he said they have started filtering on a "frame" level.. so what i understand is that it works against BT mainly since i'm on a central node for the city.. but hell i pay my $$$ a month..i want my access and he said that a few sites are blocked every once in while for one reason or another he wouldn't elaberate any.. thats all the info i could get.. oh well gotta go old school here now.. proxies and irc.. but i did love BT making life easy. and if any one reading this gets a "HTTP ERROR -1" on your torrent client.. forget it and go irc.. later folks
dinzy

join:2004-11-09
Urbana, IL

Re: Blocked sites.....

F*&% A! Well at least he was honest with you. The tech reps here didn't say a thing.

Maybe you'd rather move to DSL. Bt is way too easy but it will probably loose some of its power soon enough. With all the filtering and MPAA lawsuits going on.
Emc1683

join:2003-09-18
Champaign, IL

Well, still no luck here... No biggy really... Just irks me something fierce that they would block a site, if that is the case.

Other than this site, I have never had any problems with anything warez/BT/etc etc etc related. All p2p and BT progrmas have worked flawlessly for me.

O`well. I can live without this site (empornium), thats for sure. Hopefully that is the ONLY site that I run accross this problem with though....

Thanks for all the input/work though.

IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
I dropped some thoughts on this in a blog most just now. It seems many providers are definitely taking a stand against peer to peer sharing. I think the sharing part is what really gets them up in arms.
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