gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA
 ·RCN CABLE
1 edit | COVAD - Upcoming consumer VoIP offering
In Q1 '05, Covad will be offering a consumer VoIP product (through their large partners) which will be transparent to the end user. This offering will have no distance limitations and will be available to anyone served out of a CO that Covad is located in. The VoIP is done at the CO on Covad's DSLAM. This means that you can use any existing phone jacks in the house and telephones without using special CPE or TA.
The service is power-line so you never have to worry about losing service in an outage. This is going to be the ultimate UNE-P transfer mechanism for the IXCs (AT&T, MCI, Sprint, IDT etc...)
All typical enchanced features of current consumer VoIP offerings will be included.
Any thoughts... |
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA
 ·Broadvox Direct
| said by gissa  :
All typical enchanced features of current consumer VoIP offerings will be included.
Any thoughts...
Well you know what they say the devil is in the details. Rates, rates, rates. And will Covad only offer it to Covad DSL subscribers? |
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ross96
VIP
join:2000-11-02
Dayton, OH | reply to gissa
Sounds cool, but I like to take my ta with me when I travel. |
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Wildcat_17
join:2004-08-28
Littleton, CO
| reply to gissa
The other intersting thing is that Covad is working with Vonage now and it could be a repackaged offering. On the downside though you need to think about the issues that Covad is currently having with delivering its business class VOIP which some senior level people say will probably end up being put on hold again due to dual endpoint issues and the existing Covad network |
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KoolMoe
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Annapolis, MD
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No distance limitations?
It's voice packets traveling over TCP/IP...so the user must have a TCP/IP connection from the CO to their house, and most likely a DSL TCP/IP connection. A DSL TCP/IP connection does have distance limitations.
I don't understand how Covad's VOIP product will not be subject to those same limitations. If they've found a way to offer VOIP with no distance limits, then they've conquered the DSL distance limits too, which seems like quite a feat!
Otherwise, sounds cool, but I do think that one advantage of VOIP is being able to take the TA with you on travel so you can receive the same calls without anyone knowing your location is different. Would be neat if Covad offered some type of way to do that.
I think being 'power-line' is a FANTASTIC idea.
How about reliable E-911 service?
KM
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ABitCrazy
join:2003-07-14
Elkridge, MD
·Verizon FIOS
| COVAD could potentially offer VoIP without the distance limitations of DSL by placing the VoIP gateways (terminal adapters) at the CO's next to their DSL DSLAM's, and extending only the traditional phone line to the user. COVAD would have to provide the IP connectivity for their VoIP network independent of their DSL service, at least in terms of subscriptions. In other words, you might be able to get the VoIP service, while being too far from a CO to get the DSL. |
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Wildcat_17
join:2004-08-28
Littleton, CO | reply to gissa
ANother bit of info for you. Covad is about to launch their wireless DSL product as well as an interim solution to their other products planned for 05. Just a snippet for you |
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joako
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VoIP or VoATM? |
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Test99
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join:2003-04-24
San Jose, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·InPhonex
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said by Wildcat_17 :
ANother bit of info for you. Covad is about to launch their wireless DSL product as well as an interim solution to their other products planned for 05. Just a snippet for you
That's pretty interesting. Do you know what wireless standard they plan to use? Any other details?
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gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA
·RCN CABLE
| reply to KoolMoe
This is a completely seperate offering from Covad DSL. For example, a user can have covad voice w/o covad DSL; either because they don't want it or because it is out of reach...
The voice travels over the copper exactly like existing POTS service and doesnt convert to voip until it hits the dslam..
Additionally, another poster said covad is having issues with Biz VoIP roll-out. That could not be further from the truth as they are actively selling in 50 markets and will be in 100+ eoy. |
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Wildcat_17
join:2004-08-28
Littleton, CO | The problem is with the EU offering as it is using two endpoitns, one at Covad and one at the partner. That is the problem |
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scooby
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join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL | reply to gissa
Brilliant product. Just Brilliant. I cant wait to see what they do with it and what prices are like. |
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gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA
·RCN CABLE
| reply to Wildcat_17
said by Wildcat_17 :
The problem is with the EU offering as it is using two endpoitns, one at Covad and one at the partner. That is the problem
What do you mean when you say 'and one at the partner'? TIA |
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gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA
·RCN CABLE
| reply to scooby
said by scooby :
cant wait to see what they do with it and what prices are like.
Probably very similar to the CallVantage price tag when it hits consumers in Q1 '05. Covad would be offering it now but Nokia is building these DSLAM boards custom and Covad is in the process of building the OSS Provisioning systems that will handle the billing etc... |
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ejrobinson
Premium
join:2003-05-16
Miami Beach, FL | reply to joako
VoATM? Care to explain?
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disNdat
join:2002-01-14
Fremont, CA
| VoATM is a more accurate description of the service in Covad's case since the network they currently own and operate is mostly ATM. There is really very little IP transit involved...
The technology is very much like VoIP but tuned specificly to perform on an ATM network. |
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ejrobinson
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join:2003-05-16
Miami Beach, FL
·magicjack.com
| You mean for the initialization and reception of calls, since the gateway is located within the covad system. No need to travel across the network to reach it. However, this is a technicalit that has no real significance for users. The calls themselves must go over the internet to reach the called party through the pstn. The gateway only serves to route the calls, so it really matters little if it is inside the covad system or in east jesus, wyoming.
Aside from using vonage and lingo myself, I also have voip through my adsl isp here in paris. One might also call this voice over atm. The voip port is on the back of the supplied terminal adapter.
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gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA | reply to gissa
Additional Information. This is going to be huge:
»www.hoovers.com/free/news/detail···35dd3da5 |
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gissa
I Hit Things With Sticks
join:2002-01-28
Hyde Park, MA | »Covad's UNE-P Alternative |
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usbbtech
join:2004-03-25
Brooklyn, NY
| I'm Supportive in COVAD’s future actions … As a former Verizon and Covad xDSL special services technician , I’m glad to see that someone is “thinking” and moving forward with options and the new xDSL technology.
The new card for the Nokia D500 IP DSLAM will allow Covad to become a major player again yet another thorn so to speak for the RBOC’s. I for one have been stating my little case to the powers that be that the residential market will be the place for VoIP to benefit , (Maybe it was just me , but I don’t see the RBOC’s rushing to tell all there enterprise companies give up all your pricey T1’s that we like collecting revenue on every month.) The residential market and mostly small business / MDU market has been overlooked for years. This option on the DSLAM will perform as follow: It will allow Covad to bypass the RBOC’s switch , by doing this Yes Covad will still be on the RBOC’s cable plant to the customer. Bypassing the RBOC’s switch , Covad can now supply voice service via VoIP with a IP Softswitch , and this VoIP number is now delivered with voltage on the copper loop , thereby making it a true life-line POTS ckt. The service will be carried just like a traditional POTS copper loop , and the plus is that the VoIP number will be already wired throughout the home , as with traditional broadband VoIP service now you must plug it in the back of the TA and work off a cordless phone , unless tech savvy and then perform a loopback to your existing NID if you wanted that number in your existing jacks. As for the actual Data side , the new DSLAM card is ADSL2 compliant and this will extend the traditional ADSL loop distance more than the 15K foot loop and with a greater speed. So overall the new features of this card will bring a major wake up call to the RBOC’s ! I would like to see Covad expand into the MDU market with the remote terminal of this DSLAM for areas and apartment complex’s that cant get DSL now , and I hope you guys have started to watch the price wars and pay attention to the importance of a true VoIP E-911 format that works. Also by the way hope you guys started filing additional paper work to the states that require you acknowledge yourself as a VOICE provider …hint ..hint …
For all my fellow Covad tech’s hang in there … you probably know who this is …hope to be helping you guys install those remote dslams and wi-fi … |
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