elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs:  |  ISP Shouldn't Be Liable
They're just providing the pipe.
Kinda like making the gov't responsible if you steal a car, for having the road open, and allowing you to flee.
-- Elias
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Crunching the Midnight Oil |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| We're starting down a slippery slope here... it started innocently enough when ISPs started blocking risky ports such as 135-139 and 445, not bad in and of itself, but then it's started to expand into ports like 25 (to block spam and/or mailservers), 80 inbound (blocking web servers), and now P2P apps?
If we let this continue, residential Internet connections will eventually be restricted to 80 and 443 outbound, to selected "safe" sites.
An ISP should provide internet ACCESS. If I want any ports or services blocked, I'll do it myself with this handy dandy device called a firewall.
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Robert Tappan Morris, Jr., got six months in jail for crashing 10% of the computers that Bill Gates made $100 million crashing last weekend. |
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fartness
Computersoc Dot Com
Premium
join:2003-03-25
Look Outside
clubs: | reply to elias
Like gun manufacturers aren't responsible if I kill someone. |
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elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs:
| said by fartness  :
Like gun manufacturers aren't responsible if I kill someone.
Exactly, nor the company that makes bullets, laser sights, scopes, etc.
-- Elias
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Crunching the Midnight Oil |
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RAZ Black
join:2001-10-04
Mansfield, TX | reply to elias
this is just a test bed for more government intervention and control in the United States
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-= ok, who turned out the lights? =- |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | welcome to new China, please have a nice day. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | reply to elias
Tell the tobacco industry that!! |
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Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI
clubs:
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| reply to fartness
said by fartness :
Like gun manufacturers aren't responsible if I kill someone.
Or the person that stepped in front of the gun when you pulled the trigger
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change the courage to change the things I cannot accept and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill today because they pissed me off |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX | reply to kpatz
* thank god that im the only one that sees this.... |
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
| reply to ropeguru
I think the tobacco companies got into trouble because up until the mid-80's, they said that cigarettes were ok (or rather that studies didn't prove they were dangerous). If you started smoking after they put the labels on, I don't think you could, or rather I should say should, win a suit. |
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dosbubba
join:2002-01-26
Eustis, FL
1 edit | reply to RAZ Black
said by RAZ Black :
this is just a test bed for more government intervention and control in the United States
quote:
One UK ISP named Vispa has apparently decided to block most p2p traffic by default...
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
 ·VOIPo
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So maybe the ISP's need to start putting up banner ads on everyone's connection that downloading copyrighted material is illegal?? Will this then make it ok??
So if they are in trouble for those people they told it was ok and then put the label on, why are they still getting sued and being liable for those after all the warnings?? |
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