AJ023
join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY
| Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say no
Looks like Verizon renegged on their promise for Naked DSL. I contacted them and used their own words in trying to sign up for it. They refused. I argued with the guy saying they said they were going to offer it, but he told me there are no plans and that they decided not to. |
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underscoreT
join:2004-05-03
Glen Burnie, MD | Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say n
not sure how they'll ever get any VOIP customers then, if you have to pay for the analog line, DSL, and VOIP |
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mishaq
Premium
join:2004-01-24
Richardson, TX
clubs:
2 edits | WHY?!?!?! Why is there a desire for naked DSL???? Just get a BASIC phone line from verizon with no options, it would cost about the same as Naked DSL, because naked DSL costs more since they still have to pay to use the copper. A basic line in my state is less than 6 dollars a month, look for yourself, under local pricing:
»www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sa···lans.asp
And anyway, its always nice to have an analog line for 911 just in case your VoIP craps out and/or power/UPS |
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d_man60112
join:2004-06-09
Cortland, IL
|  reply to AJ023
Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say no
My basic line costs 22.95 not including federal state and local fees and taxes (Illinois.) They just started to advertise a plan that costs 62.95 for unlimted local and long distance. Might cancel Vonage and give up my 800 number. Right now I'm paying Vonage and Verizon. Verizon is doing a great job of keeping my business by extorsion!
P.S. No cable in area. |
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mishaq
Premium
join:2004-01-24
Richardson, TX
clubs:
2 edits | Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say n
Did you check the website I posted? When I mean basic line I mean BASIC line. The one thats less than 6 dollars a month here charges you 8 cents per local call, and has no options whatsoever. And its not extortion, its simply paying for the maintenance of those lines. The POTS division of Verizon has to keep that copper maintained, so you are paying for the repairmen who bring you back phone service after a tree cuts the line, etc. Same reason why cable companies charge more for people who have cable internet and no TV service, or why some even require BASIC TV service (although there are also commercial reasons for that) |
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mustard tongue
@nycm.n54ny31ur | reply to AJ023
In Pennsylvania,
Standard service is $2.60 (not including taxes). Add 4 to 6 bucks for dial tone if desired. |
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Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA
| said by mustard tongue:
In Pennsylvania,
Standard service is $2.60 (not including taxes). Add 4 to 6 bucks for dial tone if desired.
Yeah maybe for LifeLine Service. I have the most rock bottom. stripped down service which comes to $14 a month with taxes. Dialtone is like 5 bucks the rest are fees. 4 free calls a month locally. It's called their budget plan.
So until dry pair dsl is the same price as line share, it's just not worth it no matter how you slice it.
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basics
@verizon.n
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basic in NY costs like 18 dollars. it's 9 dollars for just the dial tone, and another 9 when you add tax
it's almost not worth it to get dsl in NY especially when you never use the landline. Might go towards OOL or TWC depending on whomever it is here, but cable anyway since the pricing is the same |
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underscoreT
join:2004-05-03
Glen Burnie, MD | reply to AJ023
I have the basic phone plan, since I use my cellphone for 95% of calls. It still costs me almost $15 a month. |
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vlad7
join:2002-12-30
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verizon basic plan is $15 for me. That's exactly how much I am paying for my vonage. So having the basic plan to get DSL don't work for me. I was hoping that I can get naked DSL since it costs the same or only $5 more than a regular price. But that change will have to be when Verizon have better speeds than RR. So, I'll never have verizon dsl. |
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idea44
@verizon.n |  go for broadvoice $9.99 plan unlimited local calls. dsl $32. Verizon's Message Rate Service $19.
$32
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$63
not too bad. |
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bodosom
Legerdemain
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Middleport, NY
 ·BroadVoice
 ·BuffNET
·VoicePulse for Bus..
| reply to AJ023
Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say no
said by AJ023  :
Looks like Verizon renegged on their promise for Naked DSL.
You can't renege on a promise you didn't make and Verizon didn't promise "naked" DSL.
Rumours are not announced services. |
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Mustard Tongue
@nycm.n54ny31ur | Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say n
My basic plan doesn't include unlimited local planning. Does yours? |
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AJ023
join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY | reply to bodosom
Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say no
It was not a rumor. A NAMED executive over at Verizon said they were going to offer it. Im too lazy to google for it right now but feel free. Its out there. |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by AJ023 :
It was not a rumor. A NAMED executive over at Verizon said they were going to offer it. Im too lazy to google for it right now but feel free. Its out there.
And it is still going to be offered as a standalone product soon...Jeez, just because it was announced as a future product doesn't mean the release date can't slip! |
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AJ023
join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY
| No, the person I spoke with said they have decided against offering it and it will not be offered. Thats what I was told.
Looks like FIOS has no voice requirement though. But when they have cabletv service, they likely will force a bundle with TV service. |
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phoneman5711
Premium
join:2003-09-30
| reply to AJ023
As to why - in my office I have two lines for regular incoming and outgoing calls and another dedicated fax line. In a pinch, I could use that as a incoming or outgoing line, but I do not need a third line.
Unfortunately, Verizon could not use any of those three lines for VOIP. I have a fourth number which is used ONLY for DSL. The minimal service is about $20 per month and it is totally useless to me, except to support my DSL.
Will $20 a month for absolutely nothing kill me. No, but I would rather give it to charity than to Verizon, if I had a choice. |
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unthinkable2
join:2004-08-14
Marlborough, MA
| reply to mishaq
Re: Verizon Naked DSL (No phone line) - They say n
You have to realize what you pay in MD for basic Verizon telephone service isn't the same exact offering in other states as several posters have noted above. I'm in MA, and the cheapest phone package you can get in my area is called "measured rate service", but its still roughly $20.00 a month by the time you get done with all the added fees on top of the $12.36 plan. Thats a lot of cash to pay for folks who don't want to use their landline at all considering for five to seven bucks more you can get a local and long distance package that includes 2 or 3 extra services and provides a discount on local calls.
FYI... The Boston Globe had a story about naked DSL earlier in the year and it was reported at the time that Verizon had been offering it in my state of Massachusetts since April of 2004. Problem is, no one at Verizon seemed to be aware of this offering in early July when I was particularly interested in ditching my landline (while still keeping VOL) in favor of a Verizon wireless cellphone for all calls. I did get one supervisor in billings on the landline side who reassured me it was possible after dozens of csr's all said no can do, but it turned out to be bogus. I asked several Verizon wireless reps this same exact question at multiple stores here and none of them seemed to have any clue about it whatsoever. Computer Shopper had a small story on naked DSL in the August 2004 issue as well for folks looking for more information. Its titled "DSL Gets Naked" by Marguerite Reardon with News.com. |
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unthinkable2
join:2004-08-14
Marlborough, MA
| Here's a link to the article that was published in the Boston Globe back in May of this year:
»www.boston.com/business/technolo···d_alone/
Verizon lets some keep DSL as stand-alone
By Bloomberg News | May 28, 2004
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NEW YORK -- Verizon Communications Inc., the biggest US local-telephone company, is trying to retain customers by allowing some of them to keep high-speed Internet service when they cut their phone line and go wireless.
For the first time, Verizon customers in 12 states, including Massachusetts, who are moving their local phone numbers to wireless devices can keep their high-speed Internet service, known as DSL or digital subscriber line, spokeswoman Briana Gowing said.
The offer is a departure for Verizon, which has sold its Internet service in a bundle to encourage customers to buy more services. New York-based Verizon, which has about 2.7 million DSL subscribers, has said it needs 4.3 million to make the business profitable. Competition is increasing as Comcast Corp. and other cable providers roll out digital phone service.
''We do believe stand-alone DSL is the right move for Verizon and the rest of the Bells," UBS Securities analyst John Hodulik wrote to clients. He rates Verizon shares ''neutral 1."
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unthinkable2
join:2004-08-14
Marlborough, MA
| »att.com.com/Verizon+to+offer+'na···095.html
Verizon to offer 'naked' DSL
Last modified: May 26, 2004, 1:56 PM PDT
By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
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Verizon Communications will soon become the second Baby Bell in the United States to offer broadband to consumers regardless of whether those customers also buy its local phone service.
The company confirmed on Wednesday that it plans to offer what's been called "naked" digital subscriber line (DSL) service to customers within its local phone region by the end of 2004. Qwest Communications in February announced plans to offer a similar service to its customers.
Up until that point, the Baby Bells typically offered DSL as part of a package with local phone service. Customers who switched local phone providers risked losing their DSL service. Consumer groups argued that this practice locked customers into services with the Baby Bells, while shutting out other DSL competitors.
But now local phone companies seem to be having a change of heart. Some experts say it is a result of more customers abandoning their local phone lines for wireless services and voice over Internet services. The Baby Bells also have lost some local lines to competing phone companies such as AT&T and MCI.
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