navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX | Patches Galore!
But IE users just love all the patches that Microsoft comes out with! * rolls eyes * - please switch to a real browser Mozilla Firefox |
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Matt
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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But IE users just love all the patches that Microsoft comes out with! * rolls eyes * - please switch to a real browser Mozilla Firefox
Don't be so smug. Firecrap has patches too.
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| Yet amazingly it's not "integrated" with the OS and so it isn't directly affected by 87% of Windows patch requirements.
In any case, I continue to recommend the Mozilla suite over the standalone Fireweasel.
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
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said by Matt :
said by navalpatel :
But IE users just love all the patches that Microsoft comes out with! * rolls eyes * - please switch to a real browser Mozilla Firefox
Don't be so smug. Firecrap has patches too.
That's a given. Every single thing has patches. The Mozilla team fixes patches infinitely faster then MS ever will. MS basically says "our users aren't having problems with this exploit" then a week later hell breaks loose and then a month later MS gets a fix out. |
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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said by B :
Yet amazingly it's not "integrated" with the OS and so it isn't directly affected by 87% of Windows patch requirements.
In any case, I continue to recommend the Mozilla suite over the standalone Fireweasel.
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If you're not applying 87% of Windows patches, you have a much larger problem than what browser you're running. 
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| I disagree. I almost NEVER apply Windows patches. I really don't see a need to, unless there's a specific bug to address or unless the machine (server) is directly exposed to the Internet.
I could say, if you're running a generic Windows workstation without personal firewall software and without protection from an external NAT router or firewall, you have a much larger problem than what patches you've applied.
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SpitefulCrow
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join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | reply to B
Firefox and Thunderbird!
What would I want the overhead of the entire suite for when I can have two separate and lighter apps to do the same thing? |
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B
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Because the total is about the same anyway, and because the full suite is a more mature and stable product that doesn't require excessive extensions?
(Talking out of butt -- don't know resource footprint numbers.)
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jplove71
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join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO
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said by Matt :
said by navalpatel :
But IE users just love all the patches that Microsoft comes out with! * rolls eyes * - please switch to a real browser Mozilla Firefox
Don't be so smug. Firecrap has patches too.
While this is true, the developers of Mozilla/Mozilla Firefox don't wait several months to patch their browser.
If I recall correctly, IE is still susceptible to phishing!
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Rhobite
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join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
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said by Matt :
said by navalpatel :
But IE users just love all the patches that Microsoft comes out with! * rolls eyes * - please switch to a real browser Mozilla Firefox
Don't be so smug. Firecrap has patches too.
Hah, Firecrap. That's as bad as the people who insist on writing "M$" instead of "MS."
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Rhobite
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join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
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said by jplove71 :
If I recall correctly, IE is still susceptible to phishing!
Um, phishing is a social engineering attack. Any browser is susceptible, given the right user.
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Trivista
join:2003-11-11
Longview, TX | reply to Matt
And what is it that you do not like about FireFox? |
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B
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join:2000-10-28 | reply to Rhobite
I believe the reference is to IE's willingness to display false information in both the URL box and the status bar.
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Rhobite
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join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
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I believe the reference is to IE's willingness to display false information in both the URL box and the status bar.
Oh, that's sort of true. The glaring URL box issue was fixed several months ago but that was a big snafu by Microsoft, it went unpatched for an inexcusable amount of time. The status bar text can be changed in IE but that's not a huge vulnerability. Many of the issues with UI spoofing and window resizing have been fixed in SP2.
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bob000001
join:2004-02-20
Bellingham, WA | reply to navalpatel
It ain't surfin' till the fat lady sings!
Opera, by far the best! |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| I just love how the makers of Opera have successfully convinced their users that a product that doesn't handle unexpected situations (non standard HTML) is somehow better than one that does. It would be like GM marketing a vehicle on the premise that it will explode if it drives over a pothole and this makes it standards compliant.
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Seven1
join:2002-07-24
Lexington, KY | reply to Matt
Re: Patches Galore!
IE zealots.. what a joke.  |
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bob000001
join:2004-02-20
Bellingham, WA | reply to Combat Chuck
Re: It ain't surfin' till the fat lady sings!
I have not ran into anything yet that Opera could not handle. |
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