yock
TFTC
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join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| reply to SKYHN
Re: What?
said by SKYHN  :
But my point is, if your allowing it to be installed on pirated systems, why care about where its being downloaded from? If EVERY SINGLE copy of windows xp, legit or pirated, is able to use it without restriction, what is the problem?
They aren't "allowing" it, they simply have no way of restricting it reliably. I thought I made that point very clear... |
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SKYHN
Lu.. Lu.. Lulululu
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join:2001-09-16
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| said by yock :
said by SKYHN :
But my point is, if your allowing it to be installed on pirated systems, why care about where its being downloaded from? If EVERY SINGLE copy of windows xp, legit or pirated, is able to use it without restriction, what is the problem?
They aren't "allowing" it, they simply have no way of restricting it reliably. I thought I made that point very clear...
SP1 did a pretty good job restricting it. I know a few people who dont use legit XP Pro and they were all blocked from getting it. What changed since then?
MS realized that millions of viral infections by their unsecure product could be prevented by allowing pirated versions of it to be patched, so thats what their doing. It should have been done a long time ago. Yeah piracy is bad, but there are things more important to worry about than that. |
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rip_sketches
join:2002-05-25
Dallas, GA
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Your point made nothing clear. Most of the people who are getting the update off of microsofts site are going to be burning that update to a disc and installing it onto multiple computers. Hell i made 5 copies of the SP2 disc already to pass around between friends, family, and collegues.
Plus the problem with the pirates is that as of SP2 RC2 the pirates had already broken the "anti-piracy" steps MS took. Couple that with the fact that many OEM licenses were coming up as pirated MS had to change stance at the last moment and ditch that idea.
MS is currently into the business of making it where they want you to do everything THEIR way. Over the past 10 years of computing as soon as anyone comes up with an original idea it has been copied and inserted into their OS the best they can. Patents filed and original ideas locked out. |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| He made his point perfectly clear, just not in the right words.
Microsoft wants to control the access because sooner or later on the P2P programs some smacktard is going to insert a virus into the service pack, put it up for download, then Microsoft is going to get thousands of calls.
You get it from Microsoft and that worry is non-existant.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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| Yes. Because Microsoft's own servers have been so iron-clad secure that there's never been the possibility of insertion of bogus code... 
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VirtualLarry
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join:2003-08-01
| reply to Wills
Like the infected files on MS's own download sites, for example? (There were several instances of this - one that I remember involving Word macro virus infections in their .DOC files (notice how those are all zipped into self-extracting .exe files now?), and one that I think involved some binaries too.)
The funny thing is, file-integrity shouldn't be an issue here, the SP2 installer is digitally-signed by MS. So if it were possible to modify the download, in a way that was not able to be detected by the digital signature "wrapper", then that would be directly akin to MS admitted that their whole digital signature system doesn't work. |
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