Glen T
join:2003-11-03
BC
| reply to skippingrock
Re: In regards to Telus's port blocking
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The server plan is over-kill for what I want to be able to do... send e-mail without having to change my settings all the time.
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Skippingrock, I hear what you are saying, but there is another solution. If all you need to do is send e-mail, then why not use the Telus Roaming Wizard and dialup?
I have a client who does this from all over the world. The Telus Roaming Wizard provides local or 1-800 numbers and handles the dialing. In some cases, there are flat-rate charges (which are quite reasonable).
My client runs everything at home and abroad without changing servers settings at all. |
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TrenttheUncatchable
@telus.net
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My point exactly. As I stated in my email, I have no desire to violate Telus' TOS. I just feel that we the consumer of the service should be provided with an option with regards to these changes. I'd be happy to have Telus "scan" my IP for any open ports, I'm inclined to think that I'm at least as secure as the vast majority of their equipment.
I know what I'm doing. Really...
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skippingrock
join:2004-07-26
Vancouver, BC
| reply to rodst
rodst,
the thing you don't get is that I and many others are not complaining about the closed inbound ports. Don't run a server on my machine on a dynamic plan. Fine. I get that.
What I don't appreciate is that Telus is blocking the outbound use of other SMTP servers. Our organization has its own SMTP server that we host in the states. It uses authentication. Which everyone should from my point of view. But Telus' brain dead approach is to close it all, even the authenticated ones. So I use Telus'.
So when I go to another, non-Telus location, I get blocked again. Because Telus is too lazy to bother with authentication and I cannot use their servers from the outside. So what do I have to do? I have to go looking for an SMTP server that I can use. Sometimes I can use my organization's one again, but as you so like to point out... others should do this. That will mean that I am going to have to have this huge list of SMTP servers just to be able to send mail as I move around from location to location. Some places, well, I just won't be able to send mail at all... or gag me, use WebMail.
If they want to do this right, then they have to provide options if they want to keep us. Telus, set up your SMTP server to allow authentication and migrate everyone over to it. Educate your users. Next, allow access from the outside using the authentication. And finally either allow users to connect to other authenticated servers or bring back the static IP option for business and home accounts. The server plan is over-kill for what I want to be able to do... send e-mail without having to change my settings all the time.
Many of you may still be tethered by your desktop, but laptops are more popular than ever and we are not always in the same location, there has to be some realization of that.
The other thing to note is that the Internet was designed to be decentralized. It has and always will be up to the end user to secure their machine. If these ISPs think that they can start to close it up for the newbie's sake and turn this into something else.... [I could go on...]
Again, I understand their reason. I just think that their implementation sucks and does not provide the flexibility that is needed by a "not so small population" of their user base... who in many circumstances (such as myself) is actually creating the content that their general users are browsing. |
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rodst
Premium
join:2002-10-06
Victoria, BC
1 edit | reply to TrenttheUncatchable
Trent,
There is nothing to opt-in or opt-out of, Telus is enforcing their policy of not allowing servers. Their core base of customers aren't even aware of the changes that are taking place, and these customers could care less if they did know. A small group of people that are being affected by the port blocking are not going to affect a change in policy.
Now, only if Shaw would do the same thing. Here are the last 60 seconds of my log file:
2004/08/05 20:48:01 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:04 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:05 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:06 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:09 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:13 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:16 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:48:58 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
2004/08/05 20:49:01 Connection attempt to base station from WAN blocked -- src: dst:
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RDS Computer Systems
Edit: For some reason, the IPs in my post got cut off, but they were all Shaw IPs. |
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