Marilla
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Belpre, OH | No surprises
That has been one (of a few) reason I've never seriously considered a switch myself; There are too many points of possible failure, for my taste. |
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Sly
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join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN
clubs: | Take it with a grain of salt. My cell phone is a lot more problematic than my VoIP line. Some people freak out when they don't have phone service for a minute. I don't know of any phone service that is 100% reliable. |
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil
| said by Sly  :
Take it with a grain of salt. My cell phone is a lot more problematic than my VoIP line. Some people freak out when they don't have phone service for a minute. I don't know of any phone service that is 100% reliable.
Ever heard of LANDLINE?? |
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Jigsaw
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said by Marilla :
That has been one (of a few) reason I've never seriously considered a switch myself; There are too many points of possible failure, for my taste.
Ditto on that one what if it was the only phone you had and you had dire emergency.I would want to think of it.
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Jigsaw
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said by Sly :
Take it with a grain of salt. My cell phone is a lot more problematic than my VoIP line. Some people freak out when they don't have phone service for a minute. I don't know of any phone service that is 100% reliable.
The Blackout last year in Cleveland Killed our power for almost a day.Yet land line Phones were still working 
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Sly
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join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN
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Yea, I used to bend over and take it from Sprint. With the constant AC hum and telemarketer calls twice a week, I had a land line.
No, they are not 100% reliable. In fact, they suck ass. |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD | reply to LordMalak
landline is not 100% reliable. |
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sporkme
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Funny thing is from at least 8:30 p.m. last night until at least 2:30 a.m. this morning, my Verizon POTS line was unavailbable via T-Mobile, Sprint, and VZ in Philly. Two rings then a fast busy.
Had to use my Vonage line to get through...
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Slidetbone
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Land O Lakes, FL
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Same here. POTS may be a pain for most; usually because of cost and ill feelings toward a Telco because of services they may not be able to get when others have it.
But it is the ole reliable medium.
Can't see whay people depend on cellphones and VoIP when the outages while sporadic, may catch them at the moment they may need it the most. Try calling on a cellphone in girdlocked traffic or in a dead spot at the worse time (flat tire, accident, out of gas, 911 call) or VoIP on a server power outage or bandwidth limitations.
It is convenient. Thats about the size of it.
VoIP? Not proven long enough. |
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Sly
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join:2004-02-20
Johnson City, TN
clubs: | reply to Jigsaw
Woo hoo! I'm so impressed. Not. I don't give a crap. I never said that VoIP was more reliable. There are many landline systems across the US that rely on electrical power at the substation to operate. |
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Marilla
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Belpre, OH
| reply to hescominsoon
Landline is a good measure more reliable than cell technology, in large part due to requirements such as backup generators at CO's.
A hum on the line isn't an impediment to making a 911 call. Losing DSL Sync, other connection problems (like that hum on the line), someone's router somewhere dying... and many other things, could cause loss of VoIP service.
I seem to recall a day, not so long ago, when power was out in New York City, and to many other people in the North East.. and yet for many, telephone service worked fine.
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Marilla
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Belpre, OH
| reply to Sly
said by Sly :
Woo hoo! I'm so impressed. Not. I don't give a crap. I never said that VoIP was more reliable. There are many landline systems across the US that rely on electrical power at the substation to operate.
You have stats on that?
Because last time I checked, most CO's were required to have backup generators. No such thing on any Internet/Cell equipment.
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jdmurray
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Huntington Beach, CA
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said by Sly :
I don't know of any phone service that is 100% reliable.
In the USA you will get a dial-tone from a POTS line 99.999% of the time. That's the highest reliability rate of any phone system in the world. This gives people very high expectations from voice services regardless fo how they are implemented.
Cell phones are less reliable than POTS, but you can shift your physical location to try and improve the signal strength. With VOIP you can only sit there and wait for the service to come back up. People may accept this occasional down-time for their web browsing activities, but not for their telephone-like voice services. |
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john262
join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV
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My land line has been out several times in the past year. Last January we had a big wind storm and my land line was down for several hours. My cell phone still worked on that occasion, but on other occasions my cell phone has been down too.
So as someone already said, no system can be 100% reliable all the time. |
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Marilla
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Belpre, OH
| reply to sporkme
said by sporkme :
Funny thing is from at least 8:30 p.m. last night until at least 2:30 a.m. this morning, my Verizon POTS line was unavailbable via T-Mobile, Sprint, and VZ in Philly. Two rings then a fast busy.
Had to use my Vonage line to get through...
One question: Did you, during this time, have to make a 911 call by chance? hehe.. of course you didn't... but I'd lay odds that if you had, it would have gone through (assuming you had a dial-tone at all... it sounds to me like it wasn't really a problem with your phone line, per se)
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Marilla
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Belpre, OH | reply to Sly
AC hum can still be spoken over... say, if you need to dial 911.
Telemarketer calls twice a week? Man.. how did you survive it? |
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xirian
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Beacon, NY
| reply to Jigsaw
said by Jigsaw :
said by Sly :
Take it with a grain of salt. My cell phone is a lot more problematic than my VoIP line. Some people freak out when they don't have phone service for a minute. I don't know of any phone service that is 100% reliable.
The Blackout last year in Cleveland Killed our power for almost a day.Yet land line Phones were still working
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Ben67
join:2000-07-08
Monroe, GA
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said by LordMalak :
Ever heard of LANDLINE??
Ever hear of Alltel? At my prior address my Alltel landline service went down quite often for a while(the SLC/RT would crash leaving the whole area without service). This usually happened on the weekend so they wouldn't fix it till Monday and if Monday was a holiday it would be Tuesday. When I asked them what someone w/o a cellphone should do in an emergency they said they would have to use someone Else's phone that worked. How nice.
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thegoldwater
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Parkton, MD
| reply to Marilla
Not necessarily. In rural areas like Northern Baltimore County here in the People's Republic of Maryland, Verizon still has 30 and 40 year old copper feeds running down the back roads. During a good rain (and we have had lots of that), the hollow core of the feed gets filled with water in the low parts between poles... the only way for them to fix this is to roll a truck with an air tank they connect to blow the water out.
It was the main reason I ditched the landline.
Besides, phones suck anyway. Too many jackasses in this country feel that my having a phone number gives them the right to bother me. |
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hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH
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| reply to Jigsaw
Yes in Fremont, Ohio too. My cell phone from ATTWS lost signal for about 5 minutes but then was working again when the backup power was in use.
Good thing i had my cell too at the time for work when it happened..the blackout power spike that hit when power was resotred hit so hard it blew a surge protecteor off the floor and then burned it to hell!
Computer was fine though. LOL |
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